meanwhile in Pakistan

[dead0man]

They've jailed the doctor that helped us locate Osama, so we've cut $33mil in aid.  (I'd post links like normal, but I'm a little tired/ill....google is your friend)


I think it's time we cut ties with this sh**t hole.

[dead0man]

eff 'em...eff 'em right in their goat ass.  They might not be our worst "friend" (I think most people agree S.Arabia wins that contest), but they are sooo much more unpredictable than any of our other asshat friends.  At least you know what you're getting with S.Arabia and others on that peninsula, Pakistan is all wild card, all the time.  Of course I think we should cut ties the them (the asshats on the Arabian peninsula) as well, but that's for another thread.

[dead0man]

We can keep bombing them without being friends with them.  They'll bitch about it (like they do now), but they can't and won't do anything to stop it.  The thing we really need them as friends for is to keep supplying our troops in Afghanistan.  We're already working on ways around that since they are royally screwing us over on that right now.

[dead0man]

We can keep bombing them without being friends with them.  They'll bitch about it (like they do now), but they can't and won't do anything to stop it.  The thing we really need them as friends for is to keep supplying our troops in Afghanistan.  We're already working on ways around that since they are royally screwing us over on that right now.

You are aware, that Pakistan is a nuclear power?

They don't nuke India over Kashmir, they're not going to nuke US troops in Afghanistan (because they don't posses missiles with range to reach the US) over some blown up terrorists in the bush.

[dead0man]

Depends on how stealthy it is and/or the level of electronic countermeasures used during the raid.  Also, not hard to blow up the places shooting down UAVs.

[dead0man]

Aren't we doing that now?

[dead0man]

Since that article was published there has been some changes.  cite

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So yes, last year they were based in Pakistan, but since Dec they've all come from Afghanistan (or otherwise outside of Pakistan).

[dead0man]

Well it would certainly make things harder if they were going balls out trying to stop us operating in their territory, but they can't stop us anymore than Iraq could.  Last year the USAF paid more in salaries and allowances to their officers ($6.7B) (just officers, not enlisted...which is much larger) than Pakistan's entire military budget($6.4B).  If we want to blow up bad guys in Pakistan, we will ....whether they want us to or not.

[dead0man]

Well it would certainly make things harder if they were going balls out trying to stop us operating in their territory, but they can't stop us anymore than Iraq could.  Last year the USAF paid more in salaries and allowances to their officers ($6.7B) (just officers, not enlisted...which is much larger) than Pakistan's entire military budget($6.4B).  If we want to blow up bad guys in Pakistan, we will ....whether they want us to or not.

But just why should we go there (more war, more monetary cost, more KIA's) over Pakistan going after one of our spies, execrable as that may be?  That is the question.

Knowingly housing Osama, charging us out the wazo to transport sh**t in Afghanistan, supporting terrorism inside of India, tipping terrorists off when we let them know we were coming for them, supporting the group that attacked our embassy in Kabul, allowing the PRC to investigate the stealth helicopter that crashed during the killing of Osama, general dickery.