Egypt opens its border with Palestine, breaking the siege of Gaza

[dead0man]

Lets just hope the Gazans have grown up in the last couple of years.  They only fired 127 rockets randomly at civilians last year, (killing 1) with the blockade in full effect which is the lowest year for random Gaza rocket attacks on civilians since 2002.

[dead0man]

Lets just hope the Gazans have grown up in the last couple of years.  They only fired 127 rockets randomly at civilians last year, (killing 1) with the blockade in full effect which is the lowest year for random Gaza rocket attacks on civilians since 2002.

I wouldn't expect them to, given the conditions they were forced to live in for four years. And I'm not lionizing the Palestinians, but their anger is certainly understandable. And, no, I don't at all believe they brought it all on themselves.

So you're saying we should expect more terrorism because of this move?

[dead0man]

Lets just hope the Gazans have grown up in the last couple of years.  They only fired 127 rockets randomly at civilians last year, (killing 1) with the blockade in full effect which is the lowest year for random Gaza rocket attacks on civilians since 2002.

I wouldn't expect them to, given the conditions they were forced to live in for four years. And I'm not lionizing the Palestinians, but their anger is certainly understandable. And, no, I don't at all believe they brought it all on themselves.

So you're saying we should expect more terrorism because of this move?

I'm saying it's certainly a natural reaction to having an entire population cut off from access to the international market. I'm not a liberal; I won't deny it. What I will deny, and adamantly, and constantly, is that it's much of a concern for the United States, or that it's wholly unwarranted. I'd probably take up a rocket launcher myself if I were in the same situation, no matter how morally repugnant that may seem to those of us not in it.

Aint nothing wrong with picking up a rocket launcher to "fight the good fight", but there is a lot wrong with firing that rocket from a civilian area and in the direction of other civilians.  I know some of you just hate the ....errrr...."Israel" so much that terrorism against them doesn't seem like such a bad idea, but it is a bad idea.  Especially if you want peace in the area some day.

[dead0man]

wow

[dead0man]

Ah the old anti-semitic card eh?

Well obviously you don't like the Palestinians because their skin is dirty and brown.

Yet here I am, not suggesting people fire rockets randomly at them.  Weird.

wow

It might be 'morally repugnant', but it's about the closest to the real moral truth of the situation as anyone is going to admit. I'm not advocating terrorist attacks; but it's not as if we haven't engaged in them before. If you need help digesting it, picture a suicide bomber as a Stratofortress and the little shops in the market as the great porcelain factories of Dresden.

A.Dresden wasn't as bad as our history books made it out to be. (a better example would be the firebombing of Tokyo.....I'm just glad you didn't use the droppings of the atomic bombs as your example)
B.we realize we've made a mistake with Dresden and (for the most part) try really hard to avoid pointless civilian casualties.
C. there must always be a third thing

[dead0man]

Lets just hope the Gazans have grown up in the last couple of years.  They only fired 127 rockets randomly at civilians last year, (killing 1) with the blockade in full effect which is the lowest year for random Gaza rocket attacks on civilians since 2002.

Yes, clearly it's the Gazans who need to "grow up."

Yep....a lot fewer of them would die if the violent minority stopped committing terrorist acts.

[dead0man]

Yeah, they suffer today because their parents and grand parents were giant racist dicks and then lost the genocidal war they started.  If they'd take a more Gandhi or MLK Jr approach they'd be MUCH further along today.  They can make the change whenever they want to.  In the meantime, we can all agree on one thing.  The status quo works better for your average Israeli than it does for your average Pali.  We can come up with reasons for the fact and they'd likely differ.  Mine would mostly blame the Palestinians and their "allies" while occasionally acknowledging that Israel has made mistakes as well, you and your side will do the exact opposite.  But when it's all said and done, nothing will change as long as asshats keeping committing terrorist acts.  It doesn't matter what you, I or they think is giving them the excuse to commit these acts of terror.  It only matters that they are continuing and the fact that continuing them will keep us in the status quo.