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Reaganfan
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« on: July 17, 2018, 01:10:12 AM »

Russia is not our enemy.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 03:51:26 AM »

The overreaction is laughable. Almost every person, with extremely few exceptions, who is "outraged", is already not a fan of President Trump.

John McCain
John Kasich
Rob Portman
Mitt Romney
Nicole Wallace
Anderson Cooper
Jim Acosta
John Brennon
Jeff Flake
Chuck Schumer
David Frum
David French
James Comey
Walter Jones
Will Hurd
Arnold Schwartzenegger

What do these people who are "outraged" have in common? They never liked Trump to begin with. With the exception of Newt Gingrich who was constructively critical, I have yet to hear such negative reactions from those who actually are Trump supporters. Anderson Cooper's objecting reporting at the conclusion of the press conference began with, "Hey folks, this is CNN Live Coverage of one of the most disgraceful performances..." Unbelievable.

We just have to push on and remember, those people outraged never liked him, didn't vote for him, and won't vote for him next time. In other words, these people are electorally dispensable.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 04:02:36 AM »

well yes.never trump people are more annoying than anti-trump democrats

My point is that almost every Republican who is outraged beyond belief are the Republicans like Kasich or McCain or Flake or Hurd or the MSNBC "Republicans" who claimed they don't support Trump or didn't vote for him.

Even still, the outrage is a definite overreaction. I don't know what they wanted him to do. If he had refused to shake Putin's hand, they'd be criticizing him. If he punched Putin in the face, they'd be criticizing him. He has a cordial meeting...they criticize him.

If he started a war with North Korea, they'd go crazy. So then he talks to North Korea, and they go crazy. I asked a liberal friend what she wanted him to do about North Korea a few months ago. I laid out several different options, she said no to all of them. Then it struck me...she didn't want Trump to do anything. Her attitude was almost like saying, "Stay right here, but don't touch anything!"

That isn't the way the Presidency works. This isn't about North Korea or Russia, it's about Donald Trump. The Trump derangement syndrome on steroids.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 12:41:05 PM »

The overreaction is laughable. Almost every person, with extremely few exceptions, who is "outraged", is already not a fan of President Trump.

This is the problem in a nutshell. I happen to agree with Newt that Trump stumbled badly on Monday and made a pretty big mistake in some of the words he chose. But I also believe that the never-ending criticism of Trump from Democrats, NeverTrump Republicans, and the MSM has sort of reached a point of diminishing returns.

This is the weakest defence of a politician I can imagine. I think you guys should unplug yourselves from what other people think and judge the President on your own terms according to your own judgement, instead of hiding behind "people I don't like are criticising Trump so I have to keep liking him".

That's one of the reasons he got elected, dude.
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