North Carolina Overturns LGBT-Discrimination Bans

[Reaganfan]

We don't make laws on how we "identify". You can't be a man and go into a girl's bathroom and say, "I identify as a woman". You can't pull out handcuffs and say "I identify as a police officer". You can't run into a court room and say, "I'm not a lawyer, I never passed the bar or went to law school...but I identify as one".

What the hell is going on?

[Reaganfan]

We don't make laws on how we "identify". You can't be a man and go into a girl's bathroom and say, "I identify as a woman". You can't pull out handcuffs and say "I identify as a police officer". You can't run into a court room and say, "I'm not a lawyer, I never passed the bar or went to law school...but I identify as one".

What the hell is going on?

why do you keep identifying as someone with opinions worth sharing, then?

You disagree with my statement?

[Reaganfan]

So in that case, how can we accommodate transgender people humanely and respectfully, while still addressing situations like this: http://www.krem.com/news/local/northwest/man-in-womens-locker-room-cites-gender-rule/45412534 / http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/26/predator-who-claimed-to-be-transgender-declared-dangerous-offender

Would mandating that public buildings designate unisex restrooms be acceptable? I'm not being sarcastic here, and I'm actually asking this as a legitimate question. Is there a middle ground we can find?

I'd be for that, but I bet the far left wouldn't like it. They'd say we were "marginalizing them" or some crap. It will never be enough for them. Ever.

[Reaganfan]

So the Obama justice department found a way this violates the civil rights act: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/05/04/justice_department_tells_north_carolina_hb2_violates_federal_law.html?client=ms-android-verizon#

Of course, NC could just ignore them and take whatever hit in federal funds there may or may not be.

Serious question. If this violates 50 year old Federal Law, how come this hasn't been done in the last 50 years? In other words, if 1964 allowed Gay Marriage, how come there weren't gay weddings in 1965? Why wait 50 years?

[Reaganfan]

So the Obama justice department found a way this violates the civil rights act: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/05/04/justice_department_tells_north_carolina_hb2_violates_federal_law.html?client=ms-android-verizon#

Of course, NC could just ignore them and take whatever hit in federal funds there may or may not be.

Serious question. If this violates 50 year old Federal Law, how come this hasn't been done in the last 50 years? In other words, if 1964 allowed Gay Marriage, how come there weren't gay weddings in 1965? Why wait 50 years?

This has nothing to do with gay marriage.

I know but what I mean is...where did all of sudden all these hidden rules in Federal law come from? How come these weren't discussed in 1965 or 1975 or 1988 or 1999. How come it's all right now?

[Reaganfan]

How far does the 14th amendment go, though? If someone says, "I have the right to walk around naked in public!", does the 14th amendment get justified in that case, too? When does it stop? Could a murderer just as easily say, "Well I have the right to kill under the 14th amendment!"?

[Reaganfan]

What I am trying to figure out is how far does "Not judging and giving people their expression rights" go?

We are at a point right now where liberals say we are terrible people unless we agree that men who say they identify as women should be allowed to use the bathroom of their choice.

Are we on track to say, "If that person wants to have sex with children, we shouldn't judge..." ?? I mean, where is the line in the sand drawn? That's what I'm asking.

[Reaganfan]

Why does that pre-occupy you? And that's a serious question.

These things pre-occupy me because I don't want America to become a lawless society. I keep getting the impression that liberals don't want any laws at all. They want to dismantle institutions because they believe society "holds people back", and they want to enforce their leftist viewpoints, even if it takes away people's individual rights.

Liberals seem to believe in freedom of speech, unless it's anything they disagree with. Then it's dubbed "hate speech" and they force silence.

Liberals seem to preach freedom and respect for rights under the Constitution, unless it's Religious freedoms, which they deem "discriminatory", so then they want to stop it.

Am I wrong?