Sarkozy = Idiot

[Franzl]

I understand the sentiment...but it's a terrible idea.

[Franzl]

Neoconservatives have always loved freedom

[Franzl]

Neoconservatives have always loved freedom

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What the hell does that have to do with anything?

That was directed at phknrocket. You know...the kind of guy that goes on and on about freedom in the West and then tries to limit personal freedom with stuff like this.

[Franzl]

Neoconservatives have always loved freedom

Iv never claimed to be neocon but as a former Muslim. I do support Sarko.

I'm calling you a neocon...

[Franzl]

As much as fundamentalist Islam turns my stomach I will never understand people who would ban freedom of expression.

Do you mean the American version of freedom of expression ? You have the right to say "homosexuality is an abomination" "we should kil doctors who practiced abortion", you have the right to be a neo-nazi and diffuse hatred against other races, but if you are not a fanatic anti communist during the McCarthysm or if you are arab and the brother of your father's cousin said for laughs when he was drunk "Bin Laden is a good man !", then you will be arbitrarily arrested, tortured and sentenced to death.

Where in the world did you get that information?

[Franzl]

The quetion is not whether you like it or not. Some users are beginning to say "Women chose to wear burqa". Yes, they chose, but why ? Just becaus their mind are deadened by a fundamentalist rhetoric that said them from the childhood that they were inferior being, that they must serve their husbands and hide their body. "tradition" is a synonym of "oppression".

Why should the state judge why somebody wants to wear certain clothing?

Can't you just as easily say Catholics shouldn't wear crosses around their necks because "their minds are deadeneds by rhetoric"?

[Franzl]

As much as fundamentalist Islam turns my stomach I will never understand people who would ban freedom of expression.

Do you mean the American version of freedom of expression ? You have the right to say "homosexuality is an abomination" "we should kil doctors who practiced abortion", you have the right to be a neo-nazi and diffuse hatred against other races,

That's right, freedom of speech is absolute. No matter how disgusting or revolting it may be hate speech = free speech. Freedom of speech is a natural right granted to us by our Creator. France can do whatever the hell it wants to do, I don't want to force our rights on anyone else but obviously I would be happy if they would choose my line of thought on the matter.

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Hyperbole much?

^^^^

Freedom of speech must be absolute. I don't care who it offends, they're free to speak out against their attacker as well.