SENATE BILL: Free Refill Ban Act (Failed)

[Franzl]

Senator you have 24 hours to post a substantive advocacy for this.

I'm happy to offer this extension of the nanny state.

Sugary drinks massively contribute to our obesity problem, and the difference between even a 1 liter mega-jug and two of them is a significant difference... Added alcoholic beverages less for obesity (although they are high calorie too), but more to make this fair and for practical public safety reasons.

Whether you support this, depends on how confident you are in the citizens' responsibility. The status quo speaks clearly, though, and I don't think obesity will solve itself. Many simply aren't responsible enough.

This is a small...perhaps insignificant step in the grand scheme of things , but I think it's a good idea.

[Franzl]

I'd recommend at least providing a clause allowing for regions to opt out of this if they chose to.

What's the point of passing anything if anyone is free to opt out?

If we don't make it obligatory, then some kind of penalty has to exist for opting out (like the way the federal government blackmails states on the drinking age in real life).

[Franzl]

Motion to table.

[Franzl]

I see I have no chance with this Senate dominated by Americans who are so used to their precious refills

[Franzl]

I see I have no chance with this Senate dominated by Americans who are so used to their precious refills

I'm willing to regulate sugary drinks to some extent.

By all means, feel free to offer an amendment as a substitute.

[Franzl]

I see I have no chance with this Senate dominated by Americans who are so used to their precious refills

I have never drank alcohol, atleast not intentionally. Can you say the same?


I haven't had a carbonated drink of any kind since May 19th. Can you say the same?

I'm trying to regulate my beer as well. I'm not biased

[Franzl]

Nay, as I'm now hoping Marokai might offer an acceptable alternative.

[Franzl]

Nay,

but if Marokai doesn't produce soon, well, we shouldn't discuss such things in public.

Something similar to practices common in medieval Europe?

[Franzl]

Both are very good, and I'm willing to take either as the best I can get from this Senate Thank you Marokai.

Personally, I'm more interested in preventing the refills, so I'm inclined to support the first one. Don't like the 16 oz minimum on it, but it's acceptable.

[Franzl]

Neither is either acceptable to me either. In fact, they just seem like a more detailed and functional version of Franzl's original text. Please explain how I am wrong here, because I don't see a big difference.

Will you be quiet?

 I'm unhappily accepting this as a compromise. The pro refill side has gotten concessions from me. This is nothing like my original idea

[Franzl]

I accept the 1st amendment as friendly as a substitute for my bill.

[Franzl]

So a restaurant can still develop a 15.9 oz cup and give people as many refills of it as they want?

Yes. That's the best I could get

[Franzl]

Yes, I think we're done. Might as well get this bill's defeat over with.

I appreciate the effort , Marokai...but too many here are acting all libertarian.

[Franzl]

Aye