L.A. Mormon temple closed after suspicious envelope arrives in mail

[Meeker]

The anti-Mormon bigotry by the No on Prop 8 movement has been extremely disgusting, disturbing, and disappointing.

[Meeker]

The actions of the leadership of the Mormon church were certainly rather nasty. However, the protests against the faith as a whole (and specifically the protesting of temples) is completely uncalled for. To think that the LDS is some sort of homogeneous group that is entirely supportive of what the Utah leadership did is extremely short-sighted. There are many in the LDS that are not supportive of what happened. And protesting any sort of house of religion when people are going to worship is just a low tactic, IMO.

The proper response to the actions of the LDS leadership would be to specifically protest the headquarters of the church and the leaders of the church. To attack and blame the faith as a whole is, in my opinion, bigoted.

[Meeker]

The actions of the leadership of the Mormon church were certainly rather nasty. However, the protests against the faith as a whole (and specifically the protesting of temples) is completely uncalled for. To think that the LDS is some sort of homogeneous group that is entirely supportive of what the Utah leadership did is extremely short-sighted. There are many in the LDS that are not supportive of what happened. And protesting any sort of house of religion when people are going to worship is just a low tactic, IMO.

The proper response to the actions of the LDS leadership would be to specifically protest the headquarters of the church and the leaders of the church. To attack and blame the faith as a whole is, in my opinion, bigoted.

I have neither seen nor heard anything about protests against "the faith as a whole"; the anti-Mormon bigotry is quite a myth. A very small minority of people have said anything at all against even the Mormon leadership; almost no one has blamed Mormons as a whole. One sensational quote cited on television does not widespread bigotry make.

Umm... no. I was at a No on Prop 8 rally in Seattle yesterday, and there were dozens of signs that things to the effect of "LDS stop the hate", "I only want one gay marriage" or other things to that effect. The anti-Mormon attitude is also prevalent on many of the liberal blogs, and has spawned such videos as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_4A1RbA-o

Add that on to the protests at temples that we've seen across the country, and there is clearly a targeted anger at the Mormon faith. To claim otherwise simply isn't being factual.

[Meeker]

The actions of the leadership of the Mormon church were certainly rather nasty. However, the protests against the faith as a whole (and specifically the protesting of temples) is completely uncalled for. To think that the LDS is some sort of homogeneous group that is entirely supportive of what the Utah leadership did is extremely short-sighted. There are many in the LDS that are not supportive of what happened. And protesting any sort of house of religion when people are going to worship is just a low tactic, IMO.

The proper response to the actions of the LDS leadership would be to specifically protest the headquarters of the church and the leaders of the church. To attack and blame the faith as a whole is, in my opinion, bigoted.

I have neither seen nor heard anything about protests against "the faith as a whole"; the anti-Mormon bigotry is quite a myth. A very small minority of people have said anything at all against even the Mormon leadership; almost no one has blamed Mormons as a whole. One sensational quote cited on television does not widespread bigotry make.

Umm... no. I was at a No on Prop 8 rally in Seattle yesterday, and there were dozens of signs that things to the effect of "LDS stop the hate", "I only want one gay marriage" or other things to that effect. The anti-Mormon attitude is also prevalent on many of the liberal blogs, and has spawned such videos as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_4A1RbA-o

Add that on to the protests at temples that we've seen across the country, and there is clearly a targeted anger at the Mormon faith. To claim otherwise simply isn't being factual.

I fail to see the anti-Mormon message in any of what you posted, in the advertisement because there were numerous cases reported of that actually happening, and in "LDS stop the hate" because that's not an anti-Mormon message. But okay.

Please provide me with a source that indicates that Mormons actually broke into someones home and took their marriage license.

I don't understand how you can't see how mocking a faith and targeting the masses who follow it even if they did nothing to actively support the proposition and even if they oppose the proposition is bigoted. That's like protesting French businesses in America because of a policy that the French government supported.

[Meeker]

The actions of the leadership of the Mormon church were certainly rather nasty. However, the protests against the faith as a whole (and specifically the protesting of temples) is completely uncalled for. To think that the LDS is some sort of homogeneous group that is entirely supportive of what the Utah leadership did is extremely short-sighted. There are many in the LDS that are not supportive of what happened. And protesting any sort of house of religion when people are going to worship is just a low tactic, IMO.

The proper response to the actions of the LDS leadership would be to specifically protest the headquarters of the church and the leaders of the church. To attack and blame the faith as a whole is, in my opinion, bigoted.

I have neither seen nor heard anything about protests against "the faith as a whole"; the anti-Mormon bigotry is quite a myth. A very small minority of people have said anything at all against even the Mormon leadership; almost no one has blamed Mormons as a whole. One sensational quote cited on television does not widespread bigotry make.

Umm... no. I was at a No on Prop 8 rally in Seattle yesterday, and there were dozens of signs that things to the effect of "LDS stop the hate", "I only want one gay marriage" or other things to that effect. The anti-Mormon attitude is also prevalent on many of the liberal blogs, and has spawned such videos as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_4A1RbA-o

Add that on to the protests at temples that we've seen across the country, and there is clearly a targeted anger at the Mormon faith. To claim otherwise simply isn't being factual.

I fail to see the anti-Mormon message in any of what you posted, in the advertisement because there were numerous cases reported of that actually happening, and in "LDS stop the hate" because that's not an anti-Mormon message. But okay.

Please provide me with a source that indicates that Mormons actually broke into someones home and took their marriage license.

I don't understand how you can't see how mocking a faith and targeting the masses who follow it even if they did nothing to actively support the proposition and even if they oppose the proposition is bigoted. That's like protesting French businesses in America because of a policy that the French government supported.

I clarified my post; there were Mormon missionaries actively campaigning for Prop 8 (and they got in legal trouble for it). So, while the advertisement is an exaggeration (i.e., no one broke into homes and destroyed marriage licenses), it's not false in the sense that any political advertising is false (i.e., there was active campaigning by representatives of the LDS church on the church's behalf).

While it's bad that that occurred, it's still taking the actions of a small minority and directing the anger about it towards an entire faith. Mission leaders also have significant authority as to what they direct the missionaries to do (some even give away prizes or rewards to missionaries who can convert the most), and this very well could be a case of a mission leader or two undertaking misguided actions.