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T'Chenka
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« on: June 15, 2023, 10:02:37 PM »

If the voters think they are out of control then they are out of control . Also we are still in far worse shape than we were in 2019 and that’s what matters at the end of the day

No, OSR. This is terrible logic. Voters are not automatically right about everything.

If 53% of voters think that Hillary Clinton performs Satanic rituals where she drinks the blood of human trafficking victim children in the basement of a pizza parlour, God doesn't look at the polling data and say "oh damn, I guess that's reality now" and snap his fingers and magically make that true.

What's that saying? "Facts don't care about your feelings". The data is clear that a lot of Republicans are OBJECTIVELY wrong about what's happening in America,
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T'Chenka
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2023, 10:49:31 PM »

The data is clear that a lot of Republicans are OBJECTIVELY wrong about what's happening in America.
Not … really?  I know you’re a huge partisan, but I’m confident you know you just used objectively quite incorrectly.  It’s an entirely reasonable opinion that all of these numbers are too high.  In fact, the only reason to think they AREN’T is to view this from the mentally deranged perspective of, “Well they’re better than when they were worse so it’s all good!”  It literally requires a Biden cheerleader attitude to not think these numbers are still awful … the only positive spin is “Look at the improvement my preferred candidate has orchestrated!  His political opposition is so dumb for not being as enthusiastic as I am!!”

A lot of Republicans seem to be under the impression that unemployment, inflation, crime (murder rate), etc are all worse under Biden than Trump, and continuing to get even worse the further we go into Biden's term. The numbers indicate that Biden's number have been trending in a positive direction, so those people are objectively wrong.

If you want to discuss "well HOW good are Biden's numbers and is the improvement enough?", then sure, that's debatable. There are a good number of Republicans who are way less grounded in reality than you are, who have absolutely no idea what's actually going on in the country.
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