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T'Chenka
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« on: February 14, 2019, 01:15:33 AM »

Kaepernick kneeling has nothing to do with veterans or the armed forces. That was one of the dumbest misdirections that the right invented, all so they could talk about everything and anything except police brutality.

Military families have decided that it, indeed, does.  You people here, who have probably never stood a post or heard a shot in anger, aren't going to be the ones deciding this.

I am not a veteran, but my younger adult son is, having served a tour of duty in Afghanistan.  I can assure you that he, and many military families, view Kapernick as disrespecting them.  That's more his issue than mine, but I don't see his viewpoint as wrong.  And for you to say, "That has nothing to do with veterans . . ." is to dismiss THEIR viewpoints totally.

Kapernick's kneeling hardened the hearts of many people who may well have come to agree with him on the social issues he cares about.  I agree that Kapernick's issues have merit.  I don't agree that Kapernick is some kind of patriot; his motivation is more identity politics than real justice.  I do care very much about criminal justice reform, but I would prefer to discuss the issue with serious people who might be able to make a coherent argument and not people who have struck me as flat-out unpatriotic and anti-American.  I can agree with a decent amount of the issues Kapernick raises, but I'm not going to celebrate his mindset, and that comes with his presentation.
It doesn't really matter if military families "decide" that it has to do with them or not. It either is or isn't to do with them, based on the facts and logic. It's about police brutality and equal treatment, and a member of the military had been consulted on how to be as respectful as possible.

(SOME) military members or families FEEL like they should have a monopoly on patriotism, but they fail to grasp what American values actually are now and have been historically. I'm talking about life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, justice, freedom from persecution, and most importantly the First Amendment. FEELING that they should have a monopoly on patriotism doesn't make it a reality. Likewise, white trumpanzees FEELING like they should have a monopoly on America doesn't make it a reality.

Reality doesn't care about your feelings, unless those feelings are based in reality... logic, reason, evidence, facts, et cetera.
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T'Chenka
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 06:55:28 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2019, 07:09:55 AM by King TChenka »

Now that is something i could get behind.
Unless you live or work around a Black History Month celebration, a parade or something, Black History Month is generally a REALLY REALLY easy thing to ignore if you so choose to. Is the principle alone that triggering?

Would you be happier if there was also a White History Month (and possibly Hispanic History Month)? I feel like introducing that would be in bad taste, but if they'd always been around, I wouldn't be so against them that I'd want them done away with.
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