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The Vorlon
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« on: November 09, 2011, 11:17:10 AM »
« edited: November 09, 2011, 11:50:56 AM by The Vorlon »


And Clinton was only accused twice, not five separate times).


Lewinsky
Jones
Kathleen Willy

Those are three off the top of my head, I suspect I am forgetting a few more....

I am not defending Cain, just pointing out the Slick Willy was pretty slimy too and that there seems to be a tad of a double standard here.

Cain propositioning a subordinate is wrong, but Clinton banging a 21 year intern in the White House is ok?

One can argue the relative ranking of the impropriety, but both are clearly deeply wrong and disqualifying acts for the office of POTUS.

Granted, Slick Willy was clearly better at it (Clinton threw a completed pass, Cain's passes look like they all fell incomplete) but that does not alter the morality of the matter, but rather speaks to the skill and charm of the offender.

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The Vorlon
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 11:54:53 AM »


Lewinsky didn't accuse Clinton of anything, and in fact tried to lie to protect the man.


So that makes the Lewinsky matter A-OK then? -

50 year old men in positions off authority in the workplace are allowed to make a pass at 21 years old subordinates, but only if they are completed passes?
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The Vorlon
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 11:58:23 AM »


Lewinsky had a voluntary sexual encounter with Clinton.


Hmmm..

President of the United States hooks up with 21 year old intern....

No power imbalance in the relationship there, nope, you're right... nothing wrong there.....

Guess CAOs banging the secretaries is just fine then too.....
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The Vorlon
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 01:04:13 PM »

I'm not saying that Clinton didn't have a number of relations that should be lumped in with the Cain thing (the Paula Jones thing if true, the Kathleen Willey thing if true).  Both of those cases are things that are just as bad as what Cain allegedly did.  It's just that the Lewinsky case doesn't fit in that category.

Not quite sure I can agree....

Where there is a HUGE power imbalance in a relationship.. aka POTUS with an intern, CAO of a company with a junior employee, Teacher with a student, etc...   can the relationship ever be ok?

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