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  Should Guantanamo be given back to Cuba? (search mode)
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No, it should become a state
 
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No, we should invade Cuba
 
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S019
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« on: June 15, 2023, 07:32:48 PM »

Why do all these people with avatars of American states think that America should voluntarily cede a valuable military outpost to an enemy state.  I get that anti-Americanism is popular and all these days, and everyone thinks Cuba is actually a cool place, but seriously?
The Cold War ended in 1991 my friend

That doesn’t mean Cuba isn’t still an enemy. It is and it deserves to be treated as one.
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S019
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2023, 09:03:21 PM »

Why do all these people with avatars of American states think that America should voluntarily cede a valuable military outpost to an enemy state.  I get that anti-Americanism is popular and all these days, and everyone thinks Cuba is actually a cool place, but seriously?
The Cold War ended in 1991 my friend

That doesn’t mean Cuba isn’t still an enemy. It is and it deserves to be treated as one.
Why exactly?
Why do all these people with avatars of American states think that America should voluntarily cede a valuable military outpost to an enemy state.  I get that anti-Americanism is popular and all these days, and everyone thinks Cuba is actually a cool place, but seriously?
The Cold War ended in 1991 my friend

That doesn’t mean Cuba isn’t still an enemy. It is and it deserves to be treated as one.

Why?

Cuba is still an authoritarian country aligned with Russia and China. We have tried to reach out to them and all they did is take our help and gave nothing in return. It is not in America's interests to continue such a one-sided relationship. We will talk to Cuba again when they agree to democratize and agree to conditions aligned with American interests.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2023, 03:10:36 PM »

Cuba is still an authoritarian country aligned with Russia and China. We have tried to reach out to them and all they did is take our help and gave nothing in return. It is not in America's interests to continue such a one-sided relationship. We will talk to Cuba again when they agree to democratize and agree to conditions aligned with American interests.

When did America tried to talk to Cuba seriously for the last time, save for Obama's short attempt before the end of his second term? Cuba being reliant on China, and especially a weak nation like Russia, is unnatural - some political bravery and smart negotiating can easily begin to turn it away from them. Its economic interests lie in America. While its government has a bad human rights record, it's far from the worst, even among America's allies, and the way to improve it is certainly not more of the same embargo that didn't work for the past decades.

I was referring to Obama's thaw. Cuba did not agree to our demands and they don't have much that we want. There isn't really any real benefit for America to give anything to Cuba especially when it gets nothing in return.
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