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S019
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« on: June 28, 2021, 12:54:54 PM »

Greetings honorable justices,

Today I am suing to declare the L.C. 10.11 also known as the Lincoln Pain-Capable Abortion Prohibition and Born Alive Survivor Protection Act to be unconstitutional.

My case rests on a few points, particularly constitutionality and precedent.


The last time that the court handled the issue of abortion rights in Politics Fan v the South, the court wrote in the majority opinion that "The limitations the state can place upon abortion access, must be tailored to only cover such legitimate government purposes without being overly broad. For example, hypothetically, a total ban against certain medical procedures would likely be unconstitutional, as no legitimate government purpose would exist to justify preventing doctors from performing procedures they believe to be appropriate and in the best interests of their patients."

The law in question includes the following provision: "The Punishment for performing or facilitating an abortion outside of the circumstances prescribed in (a) shall be a prison sentence of at least 6 months, but no more than 3 years, for the doctor, nurse, or other medical practitioner(s) performing or facilitating the illegal abortion. However, nothing within this section shall be construed to allow any punishment of the woman receiving the illegal abortion, nor shall this section permit punishment of anyone employed by the abortion facility as a receptionist, technical assistant, janitor, or any similar position provided they are not present in the room where the abortion is occurring while it is occurring."

This clearly falls outside of covering "legitimate government purposes." Imprisonment for doctors does not help to advance the administration of government or aid the government in any other way. It is not clear what "legitimate government purpose" is served here.

As previously ruled by the court in Politics Fan v the South, Sections 5 and 14 of the federal constitution protect the right to privacy, which the court also ruled included the right to choose an abortion.

Quote from: Fifth Constitution
"Section 5. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."

"Section 14. The enumeration of certain rights in this Constitution shall not be construed as to deny or disparage those natural rights and liberties herein unlisted."

Also while not explicitly stated in the Lincoln Constitution, the Lincoln Constitution includes an equal protection clause which should be interpreted as all citizens having the same rights, include their rights as an Atlasian citizen. As federal law supercedes state law, the right to privacy should also exist in Lincoln. This right to privacy includes the right to choose an abortion.

Quote from: Third Lincoln Constitution
1. All persons born or naturalized in the Republic of Atlasia and being residents of one of the states of this region, are citizens of Lincoln, with all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of the same. No citizen shall be denied equal protection under the law.

Thus, it is the view of the petitioner that current abortion law in Lincoln violates a woman's right to privacy, and we humbly ask the court to strike the law down.
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S019
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2021, 04:05:05 PM »

Honorable justices, I would like to ask for an extension on my brief, I had been in New York City this past week with family and not had much time to be on Atlas, as a result, I missed this granting. I greatly apologize for the inconvenience.
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S019
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2021, 06:35:21 PM »

Greeting honorable justices,

The brief will first focus on the issue of precedent. The Supreme Court has addressed the issue of reproductive rights before in the case Politics Fan v the South.

Quote from: Politics Fan v South
In addition to covering personal privacy, this right also has some extension that covers marriage, procreation, contraception, as well as family planning; this is evident in cases such as Loving v. Virginia and Griswold v. Connecticut, both of which were decided within the common law jurisdiction of the United States based upon Constitutional language in their Bill of Rights that is verbatim identical to our own Article I.

The court ruled that a right to privacy not only exists but it extends to other types of privacy other than simply personal privacy, including family planning. It is the view of the petitioner that the issue of abortion is one of family planning, and thus under this decision the right to elective abortion should be protected.

The court also noted in this case that real life precedent does apply due to the principle of common law:

Quote from: Politics Fan v South
Again, the intention of our Constitution’s authors is clear: inclusion of identical language means our own judiciary can look to its real-world United States counterpart for guidance. This does not mean real-world precedent applies to our nation in any meaningful way, of course, but it is a natural element of common law judicial systems that we can look to other common law systems for guidance whenever no controlling precedent exists.

Therefore, it can be assumed that the real-life cases which provided much of the reasoning behind the extension of the right to privacy to abortion, one of which is Roe v Wade also apply as valid precedent, due to the principle of common law.

In the majority opinion in Roe v Wade, Justice Harry Blackmun wrote:

Quote from: Roe v Wade
This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy. The detriment that the State would impose upon the pregnant woman by denying this choice altogether is apparent. Specific and direct harm medically diagnosable even in early pregnancy may be involved. Maternity, or additional offspring, may force upon the woman a distressful life and future. Psychological harm may be imminent. Mental and physical health may be taxed by child care. There is also the distress, for all concerned, associated with the unwanted child, and there is the problem of bringing a child into a family already unable, psychologically and otherwise, to care for it. In other cases, as in this one, the additional difficulties and continuing stigma of unwed motherhood may be involved. All these are factors the woman and her responsible physician necessarily will consider in consultation.

It is the view of the petitioner that current law in Lincoln is overly restrictive and thus may possibly include the implementation of detriment by the State, in this case the Lincoln government. For instance, it may be noted that under current Lincoln law, abortion is only legal if "the patient is within twenty weeks [5 months] from the commencement of pregnancy" or "the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or physical
health." Current Lincoln law removed a provision that would allow abortions in the case of "an absence of fetal viability." It is the view of the petitioner that forcing women to birth a nonviable fetus may indeed provide distress and psychological harm to the woman.

Justice Blackmun also wrote that:

Quote from: Roe v Wade
(b) For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health.

The second trimester lasts from 13 weeks to 28 weeks, it is the view of the petitioner that from 20 weeks to 28 weeks, the government of Lincoln is not regulating abortion "in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health." While the government does indeed include provisions for physical health, it makes no mentions of mental health, and as discussed earlier carrying a nonviable fetus to term could indeed prove traumatic for the mother.

Additionally, current Lincoln law also includes the following restriction on medical professionals: "(b) The Punishment for performing or facilitating an abortion outside of the circumstances prescribed in (a) shall be a prison sentence of at least 6 months, but no more than 3 years, for the doctor, nurse, or other medical practitioner(s) performing or facilitating the illegal abortion. However, nothing within this section shall be construed to allow any punishment of the woman receiving the illegal abortion, nor shall this section permit punishment of anyone employed by the abortion facility as a receptionist, technical assistant, janitor, or any similar position provided they are not present in the room where the abortion is occurring while it is occurring." It is entirely unclear to the petitioner how the provision for jailing doctors is at all germane to maternal health.

It should be noted that the Atlasian Supreme Court in Politics Fan v South, seemed to agree with Justice Blackmun, with Justice Bacon King writing for the court that:

Quote from: Politics Fan v South
The limitations the state can place upon abortion access, must be tailored to only cover such legitimate government purposes without being overly broad.

Yet again, it is unclear to the petitioner what legitimate government purposes are served by punishing doctors.

Thus, when we consider both Atlasian precedent on the issue as well as the real life cases that additionally served as precedent, the view of the petitioner is that the Lincoln Pain-Capable Abortion Prohibition and Born Alive Survivor Protection Act simply does not survive the test of judicial precedence.

Next, we will look at the issue of constitutionality:

As already mentioned, the Atlasian Supreme Court has affirmed a right to privacy, and has ruled, consistent with the pre-reset case of Roe v Wade, which serves as common law precedent, that said right does extend to abortion.

Quote from: Atlasian Constitution
"Section 5. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."

"Section 14. The enumeration of certain rights in this Constitution shall not be construed as to deny or disparage those natural rights and liberties herein unlisted."

The court has previously ruled that Sections 5 and 14 establish the right to privacy as a right entitled to all citizens of the Atlasian Republic. While this case is based on Lincoln law and not federal law, it can be understood that the citizens of Lincoln also enjoy these rights by virtue of being Atlasian citizens, this sentiment is also supported by the constitutions of both Lincoln and Atlasia.

Quote from: Atlasian Constitution
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the Republic of Atlasia, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the Republic of Atlasia and of the Region in which they reside, and shall in all cases be afforded equal protection under the law.

Quote from: Lincoln Constitution
1. All persons born or naturalized in the Republic of Atlasia and being residents of one of the states of this region, are citizens of Lincoln, with all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of the same. No citizen shall be denied equal protection under the law.

Therefore, it can be assumed that the citizens of Lincoln also enjoy this right to privacy and by extension, the right to elective abortion. It is the view of the petitioner that this right is currently being violated by the Lincoln government due to its current abortion law.


I thank the court for their time.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2021, 03:15:56 AM »

Mr. S019, for what purposes would someone seek an abortion after the point banned in this law?

Honorable Justice ilikeverin,

I apologize greatly for my delay in response as I had been on vacation and not checked Atlas regularly.

Anyways, I would like to begin my response by noting that late term abortions are a political term. It quite bothers me that the state has tried to use this misogynist political framing to defend their draconian law. This article tells the story of these women: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/02/06/tough-questions-answers-late-term-abortions-law-women-who-get-them/, women who the state evidently has no regard or empathy for.

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Foster and Kimport described five “profiles” of women in the study: “They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and [experiencing their first pregnancy."

This excerpt describes the misogyny of the state in full detail. Many of these women are in difficult life situations and their personal lives should not be used for virtue signaling to appease the Christian right. What type of country are we if we can't support some of our most vulnerable citizens, such as victims of domestic violence or those in abusive relationships?
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2021, 08:29:50 PM »

Questions for the petitioner:

The heart of your argument, by my assessment, is that two elements of the bill are unconstitutional: the first being the new restrictions to abortion access (the reduction from 24 to 20 weeks, the narrowing of the health exception to only cover "physical" health) the second being the criminal penalty against doctors who violate the restrictions. Is that a fair assessment?

Yes, I believe that those two elements in particular are unconstitutional

You appear to be placing great emphasis on the latter portion of LPCAP, and indeed in your OP appear to be citing it as sufficient justification to deem the bill unconstitutional via the precedent of Politics Fan v South. Let's set aside the other part of LPCAP for a moment, and focus on this part with the crime. Can you elaborate on why you believe a crime against doctors who perform a procedure that has been deemed illegal is unconstitutional on privacy grounds?

I believe that it is unconstitutional because it is inconsistent with past court precedent. The court has ruled that abortion restrictions can be implemented when there's a legitimate government purpose, I don't believe that punishing doctors serves that purpose. Also I believe that punishing doctors who perform abortion is a direct obstacle to the right to elective abortion, which is an extension of the right to privacy, because it reduces the access to elective abortion.

Would this bill still be unconstitutional, in your opinion, if the first section of the bill did not exist, and the criminal penalty only covered those abortions already prohibited by existing statute? If it only enforced abortion restrictions this court has already deemed constitutional? Or if instead the bill was criminalizing some other medical procedure - for example, genital mutilation?

No, it would not, because later sections with the bill only deal with unsuccessful abortions that result in live births, at that point to kill the child is basically infanticide. I would say it's unconstitutional for criminalizing genital mutilation though.

It's possible I misunderstand you, but I do not understand how a criminal penalty could be an unconstitutional violation of privacy. An abortion restriction is either "tailored to only cover... legitimate government purposes without being overly broad" (and thus constitutional per the precedent of Politics Fan v South), or it does not meet said criteria (and thus unconstitutionally violates the expectation of privacy between a patient and doctor). If the government has a legitimate and constitutional reason to restrict something, does that not necessarily imply they can use the force of law to enforce the restriction?

Yes it does, but the government has not provided a legitimate reason for this regulation other than limiting a woman's right to privacy.

(more questions to come, for both parties)
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S019
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 08:39:40 PM »

     To Mr. S019 (and reviving this thread), does considering the framework outlined by Planned Parenthood v. Casey as cited by Mr. Dragon in his amicus brief affect your argument that setting a limit of 20 weeks to legally perform an abortion is unconstitutional?

It's complicated, I do agree that Casey is precedent and in my view, a 20 week ban does still constitute an undue burden, earlier I cited the reasons for late-term abortions. Additionally, I believe punishment of doctors constitutes an undue burden. Late abortions are already illegal in many states and punishing doctors will discourage doctors from providing this crucial care, forcing them to flee to the South or Fremont or carry an unwanted child.

In fact, Colorado, in Fremont, is a state with legal late term access, but 87% of counties in CO have no late term abortion access.

https://naralcolorado.org/laws-policy/in-our-state/

Forcing women to travel to another region for healthcare is clearly an undue burden, especially since the Atlasian constitution guarantees healthcare to all:

Quote from: Fifth Constitution

Section 13. The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to health care, including but not limited to care necessary to prevent and treat illness, shall not be denied.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 08:45:13 PM »

Question for the petitioner:

Setting aside the rest of the bill here, could you elaborate on why specifically you believe the reduction from 24 weeks to 20 weeks is unconstitutional?

The right to abortion was established as an extension of the right to privacy in Roe v Wade, as I mentioned earlier. I also noted how in that decision, Justice Blackmun wrote, "For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health." The reduction to 20 weeks is not related to maternal health and thus I believe it is unconstitutional because it violates past precedent delineating the right to privacy

In the real world, only 1.3% of abortions in the United States occur 21 or more weeks after pregnancy has commenced - and most abortions that do occur after that point are for medically necessary reasons. There's no reason to believe Atlasian-specific data wouldn't show a similar or lower incidence of abortions at 21+ weeks after pregnancy.



Setting aside everything else in the bill, why would it be unconstitutional for the regional government to set the limit at 20 weeks, when only a negligible number of elective abortion procedures occur later?

As the petitioner, it is my view that the right to abortion, guaranteed by the right to privacy is absolute or nearly absolute, the right to privacy of those 1.3% of women is still violated by abortion restrictions.


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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2021, 11:58:33 PM »

Are there any more questions from the court for either me or the respondent?
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2021, 10:07:29 PM »

Bump?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2021, 08:10:15 PM »

bump?
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2021, 12:30:11 PM »

Even though, I am unhappy with this decision, I thank the court for their time and I respect their decision.
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