Will non-Western democracies ever become interested in promoting democracy and human rights? (user search)
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Dan the Roman
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« on: February 25, 2024, 11:55:53 AM »

I think there is a lot of racial charges being thrown around, ironically from socialist avatars, when this is actually more of a class issue. "Human Rights"" has always divided between a Middle Class concept of individual rights - which is inherently tied to the belief that what someone has and deserves is tied to what they do in life.

Both traditional elites and those outside the middle class tend to reject this. Those at the top occupy their role through natural right, whether from god, or because they fulfill a social function. There is a village chief, or landlord, or mafia boss because there needs to be, and those who challenge them are challenging the institution necessary for society to exist.

Those outside the "Middle Class" in turn tend to value collective rights. The right of a village to access land and water trumps the right of a specific villager to keep others away from grazing ground they need, or from water when they are thirsty. Individual rights then become greed, and that extends even to things like sexual rights. It is not that homosexuality is bad per se - more that the identity means someone placing their own interests above everyone else, and today that combines with the inspiration for doing so coming from abroad.

Also the Western middle class is unique in having grown up independent of traditional power structures, largely among mercantile interests. Almost everywhere else throughout history it has been dominated by bureaucrats, and the concept of merchants or lawyers wielding political power is a sign of corruption, because it is associated with a coup by middle management in the same way Eunuchs ruling through a monarch would be. Because lawyers, judges, and merchants are all state creations or the cronies of the elites.

This leaves very little room for a Western concept of individual rights to flourish as the basis of democracy except in areas where a Western class structure has developed.

Ironically, the decline of Western liberal democracy is tied to the Western middle class becoming more like the middle classes everywhere else. The average voter no longer sees Academics, lawyers, the media or business figures as independent challengers to the state power structure, but rather as its creations and tools.
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