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Brittain33
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« on: February 26, 2019, 09:32:49 AM »
« edited: February 26, 2019, 12:23:36 PM by Brittain33 »


Wow, abortion clinics are routinely denying care to babies who survive abortion?  And there's no way to change this without shutting them down?

It has a criminal penalty of 5 years for a vague set of circumstances like "immediately admitting and transporting the child to a hospital"  and "same degree of care/skill/diligence that would be given to any other child born alive"

It would leave abortion providers extremely vulnerable to lawsuits with severe criminal penalties.  

It's black and white that this bill has a simple aim to shutdown abortion providers.

Yes, admittedly if an attempted abortion results in a dead or severely injured newborn, the abortion provider could be open to prosecution or lawsuits.  If that worries abortion providers enough for them to close their doors, that says something.

This whole debate makes it very clear how impractical it is for birth to be the thing that grants a child rights, since things happen to a child before birth that can cause injury or death to them afterwards. So you have to choose, which is more important to protect, late-term abortion or the lives of born children.

What is the medical situation of the large majority of fetuses in the cases of late-term abortion?

I don’t know if you genuinely don’t know these are non-viable fetuses who are destined to die within a few hours of birth if they survive at all, or if you do and are being disingenuous.
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2019, 11:17:14 PM »


Wow, abortion clinics are routinely denying care to babies who survive abortion?  And there's no way to change this without shutting them down?

It has a criminal penalty of 5 years for a vague set of circumstances like "immediately admitting and transporting the child to a hospital"  and "same degree of care/skill/diligence that would be given to any other child born alive"

It would leave abortion providers extremely vulnerable to lawsuits with severe criminal penalties.  

It's black and white that this bill has a simple aim to shutdown abortion providers.

Yes, admittedly if an attempted abortion results in a dead or severely injured newborn, the abortion provider could be open to prosecution or lawsuits.  If that worries abortion providers enough for them to close their doors, that says something.

This whole debate makes it very clear how impractical it is for birth to be the thing that grants a child rights, since things happen to a child before birth that can cause injury or death to them afterwards. So you have to choose, which is more important to protect, late-term abortion or the lives of born children.

What is the medical situation of the large majority of fetuses in the cases of late-term abortion?

I don’t know if you genuinely don’t know these are non-viable fetuses who are destined to die within a few hours of birth if they survive at all, or if you do and are being disingenuous.

I'm not sure what you're arguing.  If a newborn child dies as a result of an attempted abortion, is that acceptable to you, or not?  Is it better if the child dies before leaving the womb, or does it matter?

Do you agree that the child is non-viable and going to die shortly if carried to term?
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