SENATE BILL: Vote Sanctity Act (Law'd)

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I will not be supporting this bill.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Exactly.  Not allowing edits at all is extremely draconian, and will create far more problems than it solves.  I see no reason why the current system isn't working.  Can you provide any actual evidence?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Preventing people from editing their ballots will not stop people from trying to get voters to invalidate.  This simply isn't a problem that can be legislated away at a national level.

I would provide evidence but I am not sure I trust certain people not to try and make this debate personal instead of political.

In other words, you can't.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

And of course we have people like Seatown who send out misinformation about the vote editing process that leads to invalidations. If we didn't have vote editing, people would know not to edit their ballots.

No, then the misinformation will just be different.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

That is, if possible, even worse than your original bill.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Five minutes is plenty of time to review and edit a post.

Do you have a solution to the problem or is all your energy going to criticizng others' solutions?

Five minutes isn't time to be alerted to a mistake, and then to fix it.  And we're criticizing your solutions because there is no problem to solve.  You're offering solutions to a nonexistent problem.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You don't see anything unethical about doing your campaigning after someone has voted?

Nope.  You may have assumed that voter was in the bag, and now you need to reach out to them.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm not accusing you of anything.  I'm justifying campaigning after the vote is cast.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Are you threatening me Napoleon?

My justification is that because so much of this game depends on personal interaction, it's acceptable to make a personal plea once the voter has made their intentions known when the candidate desires it.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

If people in your race started voting for Gass, would you have asked them to change their votes?

No, because people voted the way I expected.  If a voter I hadn't reached out to because I expected their vote voted for Gass, I'd have shot them a PM, and I don't think anything is wrong with that.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I do.

Then I may as well stop arguing with you, since I'll be voting against whatever you propose

I'll support Nix's amendment

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Aye

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Aye am glad to see we could reach a compromise.