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« on: February 16, 2009, 11:39:36 PM »

It's a shame that a truly decent man would be denied the nomination for doing something that he truly believed to be the right thing to do. Arlen Specter is of a noble, but dying, breed.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 12:39:14 AM »

Denied?  Please.  Arlen's in hot water because he sides with the Democrats 80% of the time.  He's pro-choice, pro-Union, pro-Obama etc.  I think the GOP is dumb to try and purge him, but let's not pretend like he's being persecuted unjustly here.  If a Democrat voted the opposite of him, say in California, casting a critical vote sinking a number of Obama's big plans, you know you would support primarying him just like Democrats support primarying Lieberman (despite Lieberman following his heart or whatever).

Of course, the larger issue for the GOP is whether a true conservative who primaries a moderate is viable in PA

First of all, That was an awfully forceful response. In any case, I really don't know where you got that BS statistic about he sides with Democrats 80% of the time. (I hope you were joking.)

110th Congress

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/party-voters/

109th Congress

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/senate/party-voters/

108th Congress

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/108/senate/party-voters/

Seems pretty Republican to me.. Now naturally, he's no Rick Santorum, who voted with the Cons about 91.7%, 92%, 94%, 96% and so % of the time, but he's hardly a RINO or even approaching a Lincoln Chafee.

And there's a difference with Lieberman who, while Progressive on alot of issues, was generally a dick to Obama during the campaign season, just a step above calling him a traitor:

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And it's not like Specter didn't endorse McCain either, unlike alot of other Republicans who took the chance to do so.

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Now sure, Arlen definitely has a mind of his own, but if you're going to target Specter to try to get him out of the party, you basically have to go after Collins and Snowe as well as some other Republicans who have moderate tendencies, and denounce popular Republican figures like Powell who actually did endorse Obama.

Besides, it's not like Democrats don't have Conservative Democrats in the Senate. (Ben Nelson, for instance.)
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 12:58:57 AM »



And it's not like Specter didn't endorse McCain either, unlike alot of other Republicans who took the chance to do so.

Uh...I'm glad you're picking and choosing (or you're just totally ignorant of the situation here which is likely the case) what makes Specter loyal. He's screwed with plenty of other Republicans and Bush when he was the President. Finding some reasons why he supported McCain doesn't make up for it. And if we're just going to use one example to prove how Specter is loyal and Lieberman is a "traitor," please recall the year 2000 and Lieberman's role with the Dems. Thanks.

I'm not sure how pointing out his voting record and his past endorsements is picking and choosing, but alrighty.

In regards to Lieberman, my point earlier was that he routinely attacked and went after the Democratic Party and later Obama in very RNC-talking-pointy ways. Comparing the attacks on Specter and the attacks on Lieberman doesn't add up.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 02:14:49 AM »

. On taxes,guns, school choice, foreign policy, etc.

So would any Democrat that's electable in PA

Ohio is arguably more conservative than PA, and we elected a very progressive candidate to the Senate.
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