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Marokai Backbeat
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« on: August 25, 2012, 01:30:34 AM »

Do we have a Deputy SoFE right now? Because if not, I think we can safely nominate Max.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 09:52:25 AM »

I can absolutely understand someone voting Seatown over BK, considering BK's very fly-boy, love-em-and-leave-em approach to Atlasia he's had in the past.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 12:29:14 PM »

I can absolutely understand someone voting Seatown over BK, considering BK's very fly-boy, love-em-and-leave-em approach to Atlasia he's had in the past.

Wormyguy has missed a majority of votes during his term and recently was expelled but still scored higher approvals than Seatown.

Sheesh. I guess I just don't know what Seatown has done wrong. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 11:38:09 PM »

Anyone who knows me knows that I had my similar issues with the Liberals when dissolution happened. I think both sides have completely fair points here, though, which is why I don't really know what to think of this fight. Tongue

I don't want to play sidekick to the Liberals in the same way I didn't want to play sidekick to the JCP, and I do fear that extended dominance of the Liberals are going to cause our system to reconsolidate with the Liberals dominating national elections, Labor eventually being effectively dissolved, the Right being united for no other reason than to beat the Liberals, and then having a handful of disgruntled people in the middle, mostly on the loony left. Nobody should want those days to repeat, I didn't like them much.

But there's a difference in that and just trying to be different for different's sake. I'm a Socialist, but I don't make it my entire persona, and in fact, very little of my main focus in Atlasia is only on that. Being left-wing is fair, but trying to be a caricature of the left-wing just to be different is sort of ridiculous. If Napoleon is worth supporting, and he certainly is, then there is no harm in doing so. Good candidates deserve support, it's when Labor is being used as a permanent sidekick to even the most bland of candidates that we should start getting grumpy, which hasn't happened yet.

I'm starting to wonder if ideological parties were a mistake, and we should be creating issue parties instead. It's even more granular, but, at least parties can work in more diverse coalitions rather than having a basic Left, Right, and Center.

Regardless, insulting each other, or in particular insulting the center for literally no reason, isn't going to be the solution. Especially since Napoleon has reasonable approvals, and has been a good President, right now is not a fight that's winnable even if it was worth fighting. It makes sense for the different shades of the left to work together; unity is a sensible thing. Let's just not take it to the past extreme.

In defense of my Labor party mates though, I don't think it's very fair to use their political positions against them as some sort of problem. Labor is a Labor party, what do you expect? Of course some of us would want to re-evaluate trade law or consider a stock tax. We're being ourselves by proposing it and helping diversify what is actually a rather right-wing Senate for our history. I understand entirely the idea of Labor supporting Liberal candidates as the logical thing to do, but that doesn't mean we should become Liberals. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 12:19:30 AM »


The election has been canceled. We are now a parliamentary aristocracy in the midst of negotiations for a governing coalition.

I wish!
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 06:17:48 PM »

I may have to remove Hagrid from my ignore list? Angry
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