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Marokai Backbeat
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« on: May 06, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »

And trying to restrict student voting laws has nothing to do with going after Democratic voters.

And trying to restrict photo ID laws has nothing to do with restricting poor the poor vote.

And trying to restrict voter registration has nothing to do with trying to keep down the Democratic nature of first-time voters.

And trying to restrict the ability to vote for former criminals has nothing to dow with the fact that they vote mostly Democratic.

Franzl, I like you, but everytime there's an issue of Republicans trying to restrict Democracy, whether it be by voter registration laws or voting laws themselves, you respond with wide-eyed naivete about who it's actually affecting. Various measures are being taken in several states to try and suppress the Democratic vote.

Not everyone that votes is like you and me. We know election laws, we diligently participate in the process, we pay attention to the news on a very regular basis and pay attention to procedure to know what we have to do. Not everyone in the world is super-informed, especially in America. It's not about "well why can't these people just walk around with their birth certificate and passport on-hand to register to vote in Kansas, if that's what it takes!" It's not about "well why can't these people just show up and vote on election day like normal people, it's not hard!"

What people can or can't do and why they can or can't do them isn't the question, people don't. And that's what these laws are designed to do, to hold back people that simply didn't pay attention, or aren't obscenely prepared and knowledgeable. No one restriction Republicans have been proposing is going to do it all for them, each effort only holds back a small percentage in most cases. It takes alot of little efforts like this. One after another. A cocktail of anti-democratic measures to tilt the game in their favor.

Not everyone who votes obsessively prepares for doing so. Some people are incredibly poor. Some people don't pay as much attention. Some people are practically just kids. And whether or not you can understand why it holds people back from voting, it does. It just does.
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Marokai Backbeat
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 06:59:53 PM »

Well, that's a risk you have to take in a democracy, no?

It's a risk of course, but one that can be hedged against, like any risk.

Voter ID is already settled law. Certainly someone unwilling to spend the minimal time and expense to procure an ID shouldn't be determining the fate of someone else's tax dollars.

Thats the issue right there.  Forcing someone to get a document they need to pay for (even if its relatively cheap) in order to vote, is another form of a poll tax.

You say that like Krazen cares about that sort of thing. He's not a human being, he's an amoral Republican political strategist.
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