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Question: Do you support the Consitution Convention, the Legislative reboot, Both, or Neither?
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Consitutional Convention
 
#2
The Legislative Reboot
 
#3
Both
 
#4
Neither
 
#5
Don't No/Not Sure
 
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« on: June 27, 2010, 06:08:45 PM »

We need something done with the statute at least IMO. Ideally for me, some sort of reboot, but if it is easier to swallow for others, I'd be just as happy with some sort of consolidation of the statute and removing old and/or poorly written laws.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 06:32:02 PM »

We need something done with the statute at least IMO. Ideally for me, some sort of reboot, but if it is easier to swallow for others, I'd be just as happy with some sort of consolidation of the statute and removing old and/or poorly written laws.

     Poorly written is such a subjective notion that I doubt that any satisfactory standard could be created to measure that. I would be glad to strike all repealed & superceded laws from the record, though, as well as consolidating laws written with a sole function of amending existing statute into the laws that they amend.

I have a feeling that will end up being the compromise. It's perfectly sensible regardless.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 06:45:34 PM »

Didn't we try a ConCon in the past?

That ConCon was horribly structured and died because it was too large and completely unfocused. If we can get another ConCon, it will (hopefully) have a specific and narrow goal with a smaller amount of people involved.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 03:01:01 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2010, 03:11:28 PM by A.J. Marokai Blue »

I support a re-boot (or, at least, some way to keep Atlasian laws in line with United States ones, if we continue to insist Atlasia=United States), but not a constitutional convention.  I mean, think of the last one... what's to keep me and my cohort from ruining another one? Wink

I believe I've explained several times to people by now why bringing up the last ConCon is absurd. There are a variety of reasons why this one will hopefully be different.

But at least you're taking the most inexplicable stance so far. As opposed to people who voted for a game reform ticket yet for some reason are hesitant about actually changing anything (why did you guys vote for us again?) you've managed to say you support changing everything but don't support the mechanism necessary to make any change. Congrats!
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 08:04:02 PM »

I support a re-boot (or, at least, some way to keep Atlasian laws in line with United States ones, if we continue to insist Atlasia=United States), but not a constitutional convention.  I mean, think of the last one... what's to keep me and my cohort from ruining another one? Wink

I believe I've explained several times to people by now why bringing up the last ConCon is absurd. There are a variety of reasons why this one will hopefully be different.

But at least you're taking the most inexplicable stance so far. As opposed to people who voted for a game reform ticket yet for some reason are hesitant about actually changing anything (why did you guys vote for us again?) you've managed to say you support changing everything but don't support the mechanism necessary to make any change. Congrats!

Or, you know... there's the whole, "amendment" system.  That's worked for a while.  And it avoids people bringing up the last ConCon, which everyone will do no matter how much you rant.

I hate to sound condescending saying this (and I probably will anyway) but you're just not getting it. That's what we've been doing for ages which created the rickety patchwork Constitution that confuses newbies and veterans alike that we want to replace with a consolidated one specifically because another amendment would just add to the problem.

The only way to really accomplish the same thing would be to change the way we wiki things, but that is just covering up the problem, not actually solving anything. It's a rug over stains and a rotting wooden foundation as opposed to an actual renovation.

As for the comparisons to the ConCon continuing regardless, they're still wrong, and I don't really care how much ranting it takes, the comparisons are asinine and I will continually correct them regardless.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 08:26:45 PM »

I frequently check it, but that may have more to do with me being a Justice lately, than anything else.
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