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Question: Do you support Biden's recent immigration actions ?
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Yes
 
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No
 
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Maybe ?
 
#4
Yes, but it's only temp. A comprehensive long term solution is needed.
 
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Author Topic: Do you support Biden's recent immigration actions ?  (Read 900 times)
Person Man
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« on: October 06, 2023, 05:13:28 AM »

What we need to do is address the reasons why they are here more directly.
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Person Man
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2023, 06:55:12 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2023, 08:26:53 AM by Person Man »

Immigration is one of the few issues I don’t agree with Biden on and think a border wall would be a good thing

I totally agree with this but this problem won’t go away until we find a way to mitigate the causes of people showing up all the time.

and STILL the question is why Democrats should alienate guys in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania just to get some guys in Texas and Florida to not vote for them anyways?

There are tons of issues where the Democrats need to draw the line on. Healthcare in general ,whether its "access" or whether people should be allowed to get it at all without going to jail, being left alone in general, especially from the NSA or FSB, keeping the country a democracy and the world safe for democracy, and things like Social Security are non-negotiable issues.

Things like immigration, and to a lesser extent, police brutality and the welfare of transgendered people, are important things that need to be addressed. However 1) society is not ready to address them, and 2) there are still a lot of practical reasons why an unapologetic blank-check approach to advocacy is not the best thing for society or even for the affected people.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2023, 08:59:49 AM »

Not at all- America is objectively one of the countries most able to absorb immigrants thanks to its wealth and low population, and the number of migrants is relatively small anyway as the Americas are fairly sparsely populated in general compared to Afro-Eurasia. The only way America is going to be able to compete with India and China is by having more people, and making immigration easy for people across Latin America (and maybe Europe too) is a key part of that.

Biden going full on "build the wall" is ridiculous

There's nothing immoral about immigration in and of itself. Even if people need to come here and otherwise can't wait to be let or otherwise aren't qualified through no direct fault of their own. That's not the issue. The issue is how we address the issue that is practical and works for everyone.
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