Colorado 2008

[Person Man]

Lol. There was something like that in Wyoming a few years ago. It failed pretty badly. (this one was an abortion ban and did include a rape exception) If you can't win in Wyoming, why would you want to try in Colorado? LOL!!

[Person Man]

I disagree. GOP COLORADO 90%. The democrats will not be allowed to run.

[Person Man]

Do you think that Rawlings is an airforce brat from the Springs?

[Person Man]

Where? Castle Rock?

[Person Man]

The Denver burbs stretch out for an hour. Castle Rock is just before the hill from where you can see the Denver skyline.

Yeah, Aizen's from Castle Rock. But somehow, I have a feeling that Rawlings is from Greeley or some other far-right part of metro Denver.

I forget where he told me where he lived but it was just outside of Denver.

Castle Rock is basically the half-way point between Colorado Springs and Denver. It's a very fast growing town. I lived in the Springs for 3 1/2 years and just left there. Great city.

I will say right now, the Republican Presidential Candidate will win Colorado in '08 (unless Richardson is the nominee) and I'm not buying a Udall win yet either.

You will probably get that feeling from living in the Springs, Ritter won 38% in El Paso county where Salazar won 34%, Kerry 32% and Gore like 31%. I bet we can win Colorado if we break 33% in El Paso. Either way, you can't write off Colorado because of on bad poll. The DNC is there, Schaffer is getting all kinds of crap and well, Kerry ( a traditional NE liberal) was about to carry 47.25% of the vote, the most for a dem, a liberal dem at that, in almost 50 years!

[Person Man]

Yeah, Aizen's from Castle Rock. But somehow, I have a feeling that Rawlings is from Greeley or some other far-right part of metro Denver.

Greeley (where my cousin goes to college) is far more moderate than Castle Rock and not really considered part of the metro either. Kind of like St. Cloud and the Twin Cities metro.

I'd guess that Rawlings is from outer Jefferson or Arapahoe Counties.

Not really. Jefferson and Arapahoe a lightly blue counties now and Weld is actually slightly more conservative than Douglas and Elbert. I consider anywhere where you can see the skyline a suburb, anything less than 100 miles away is an exurb. I consider Laramie and Colorado Springs to be the outermost exurbs of Denver.

[Person Man]

It certainly feels like one with no buildings over 20 stories tall and a relatively quick drive from Denver. Also, Denver's metroarea is over four times the size of the Springs, despite the springs being almost the size of Denver.

[Person Man]

It certainly feels like one with no buildings over 20 stories tall and a relatively quick drive from Denver. Also, Denver's metroarea is over four times the size of the Springs, despite the springs being almost the size of Denver.

The Springs have about 200k people less than Denver. Unless I'm mistaken, it's El Paso County that's similar in size to Denver.

Also, the Springs metro is far *younger* than Denver. It's still in development.

That proves my point...it really does feel like a suburb.

[Person Man]

People commute from smaller suburbs to bigger ones all the time....and yeah, I guess the traffic is kinda bad, but not nearly as bad as Denver's. You can get stuck for 90 minutes in Denver... easy! Probably some damn stoners down the road are driving too slow

[Person Man]

People commute from smaller suburbs to bigger ones all the time....and yeah, I guess the traffic is kinda bad, but not nearly as bad as Denver's. You can get stuck for 90 minutes in Denver... easy! Probably some damn stoners down the road are driving too slow

Yeah, but it's starting to deal with poverty and crime and whatnot... Most of the Denver/Colorado Springs suburbs don't have very much of that.

Yeah, then again, Brandon, Fl had a lot of that and it was a suburb of Tampa. Also, the Springs is inflitrated with Meth, a rural crime problem....and like I said, the Springs is more like an exurb and votes like one too.  El Paso county is like deliverence, but with the streets paved with Gold.

[Person Man]

People commute from smaller suburbs to bigger ones all the time....and yeah, I guess the traffic is kinda bad, but not nearly as bad as Denver's. You can get stuck for 90 minutes in Denver... easy! Probably some damn stoners down the road are driving too slow

Yeah, but it's starting to deal with poverty and crime and whatnot... Most of the Denver/Colorado Springs suburbs don't have very much of that.

Yeah, then again, Brandon, Fl had a lot of that and it was a suburb of Tampa. Also, the Springs is inflitrated with Meth, a rural crime problem....and like I said, the Springs is more like an exurb and votes like one too.  El Paso county is like deliverence, but with the streets paved with Gold.

No... Colorado Springs HAS suburbs, just like Denver.

For a real exurb, look at Greeley. People actually commute from there to Denver. But I doubt you'd find very many people commuting from Colorado Springs (which already boasts a growing job market) to Denver.

Then again, what is your definition of suburb?  Even with your definition, Laramie,WY is an exurb. There are people in my school that commute from Denver.

[Person Man]

Do any eunuchs work at FotF?

[Person Man]

Seriously. What is now reasonable to expect in CO?

[Person Man]

with Obama about 2-3 points more Dem than the national average

...and about 5 points toward Micky C if HillDawg wins. She will probably get about 46% of the vote nationally and about 43% in Colorado.