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« on: June 15, 2022, 06:21:09 AM »

Most people in the US and other developed countries will be ok. It will be a significant problem and lead to lots of undesirable consequences, but it is survivable. Importantly, these countries can afford to implement measures that adapt to climate change. The countries that are really vulnerable to the impacts of climate change also tend to be poorer countries that will struggle to adapt to it. This will lead to a huge refugee problem in the coming decades, which will be worsened by the fact that impacts of climate change will cause more wars. This process has already started. We will be better off if climate change is reduced and the effects of it are reduced, and we absolutely can use our votes to achieve that.

If you don’t like refugees, you should be concerned about the oil industry.

I don’t think people are going to go extinct…but in the worst case, probably the way the Roman’s went “extinct” and probably for similar reasons except their situation was caused by natural global cooling on a less extreme scale but it did create 1) less food and eventually the economy was in a recession more than not and 2) oppressed refugees who eventually had successful uprisings.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2022, 11:08:21 AM »

My guess is that the hottest it can get on Earth because of Global Warming is 8*C/14.4*F hotter than it is today. The average temperature over the whole world was 55*F in 1850 and now is around 57*F. So in a worst case scenario, I think we could see an average global temperature of 20*C/69*F. That's about what Jacksonville is today. So no. The world isn't suddenly going to be like Venus or something like that. What it could mean is that our society can't adapt and collapses us into a Dark Age or something like that. I think the typical bad ending will be something out of the documentary Earth2100.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2022, 03:28:36 PM »


I would just like to interject something here. What if "climate change" was simply Mother Nature's way of balancing herself out? What if there really is nothing to worry about, that it's just a natural cycle doing its thing?

I could tell my kid that with good conscience, and it is more likely than not, true.

It’s like the CRT vs lost cause/replacement theory binary choice. It’s a false one but somethings still to consider.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2022, 08:03:44 AM »

"Climate change" has been supposed to "destroy the world" for over 20 years now and nothing has changed. This is about power and nothing else. Nobody cares about this except for elitist liberals who ironically have the highest carbon emissions.

If you choose to close your eyes and cover your ears, make sure you keep doing so so you don't suddenly start to care when the hurricanes and tornadoes and wildfires reach your own backyard. Or pray that someone who prepared is kind enough to take pity on your reckless hubris.

"Elitist liberals" living in apartments and lacking cars/taking public transport are probably doing a heck of a lot less damage than you.

Don’t worry. They’ll be up there with the rest of us to get the checks when we have our first trillion dollar disaster.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2022, 02:19:18 PM »

Teachers make basically every lesson about climate change and stuff during school. Honestly it's boring by now, who cares.

See, this is what I'm saying though nobody wants to listen to me. Your teachers should be teaching about Mother Nature's cycles. Delve into deep history, as deep as you can go to get a larger view of the cooling and heating trends nature goes through. She knows how to balance herself out, without any help from us.

This does not mean however, that we humans are living good lives. We need to learn to live in harmony with nature and with our planet. We don't have to dig the hell out of it, suck out all the oil or pollute the air we breathe. We must be mindful of what we are doing and always strive to do better.

I would tell a kid this rather than trying to scare it half to death with tales of gloom and doom. That's no way to treat our impressionable little kiddies. Show them how to work for a better future for themselves.

We're doing in a century (or less) what would naturally happen over millions of years.


Talking about natural cycles in the context of climate change is like comparing an apple falling from a tree to an orange being fired from an artillery piece.

Your own graph contradicts your words. You say a century or less, your graph shows a tiny observed spike and then a huge projected spike by 2500.

The time scales on the graph are logarithmic. I'm not sure if you noticed that or not.

Even then, the curve until modern day looks just like the curve during the end of the last glaciation.
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