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« on: December 18, 2016, 09:19:44 AM »

At this point,  we have to be resigned to the fact that 'it is happening here and now". It would be ignorant to think otherwise.

Personally, no one should be forced to carry a damaged fetus to term but if a fetus is discovered like that, but the parents should be automatically given the choice of prenatal disability benefits. I wouldn't know what I would do if I knew if I was going to have a disabled child but it wouldn't be my choice to make. It should also be illegal to have people castrated or prevented to grow because they are disabled. My grandparents had my Down Syndrome Aunt castrated. They were Conservative Catholics.

I do think that there should be a cultural shift in care that sees a lot of current disabilities as conditions that we will be able to greatly improve. Being disabled is being sick. Not a "difference". We should be saying that about obesity as well.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 10:39:42 AM »

You give advocates of reproductive choice a really bad name.

Your posts in general are an eyesore, though, so on ignore you go.

What I'm saying is pretty standard stuff. Not only do most Democrats support it, many otherwise pro-life Republicans also make exceptions for the case of severe disability of the fetus.

I can only assume some of you are put off by my indifferent tone.

I expected you all to be smarter than to judge an argument based on tone though.

Is this the alt-Left?


At this point,  we have to be resigned to the fact that 'it is happening here and now". It would be ignorant to think otherwise.

Personally, no one should be forced to carry a damaged fetus to term but if a fetus is discovered like that, but the parents should be automatically given the choice of prenatal disability benefits. I wouldn't know what I would do if I knew if I was going to have a disabled child but it wouldn't be my choice to make. It should also be illegal to have people castrated or prevented to grow because they are disabled. My grandparents had my Down Syndrome Aunt castrated. They were Conservative Catholics.

Clearly not Catholic enough, if they did that. Yeesh.

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I understand the rationale behind looking at it like this and I understand that it's well-intentioned but it's not the way I or most of the other disabled people I know would want to be looked at.

Could it be both? Knowing there will be empowerment and care but knowing that there is the possibility of improved health?
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2016, 10:58:22 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2016, 11:00:58 AM by Spicy Purrito »

In his defense:
As many people who want to lower the accepted viability threshold want there to be an exception for Zika-damage at that gestation time.

But I wasn't name calling. I am just trying to get a lay of the land. Maybe your views are unacceptable to most people, but most people don't understand that by refusing to debate "settled questions" causes those questions to be asked by voters again. That's why the "Bible Belt" on the EV map extends into PA,WI,MI, and FL.
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