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« on: December 13, 2016, 07:59:57 PM »

He will join Mary Fallin in the history books of people who claimed to be pro-life, but passed on their chance to be the one to get Roe overturned.  Sad!

This needed to be vetoed for strategic reasons. The challenge to Roe can't succeed when there is still a pro-choice majority on the Supreme Court.

By the time it comes to them, they might have went from 5-3 to 4-5.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2016, 04:29:50 AM »

I wouldn't call favoring the classic "3 exceptions" (assuming he holds that position or something similar) anti-life.

i read it like he especially stated that there are no possible exceptions and i think mike agreed to my interpretation.

if it misinterpreted his post, i am deeply sorry - "normal" abortion foes don't get my snark, i just can't stand it if people value the life of the child higher than that of the mother.

I hope if a law like that becomes the of the land or any part of it, that there are enough people to ignore that it causes a lot of problems.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2016, 07:47:38 AM »

Banning abortion is doomed to fail...it's like prohibition.

Before Roe vs Wade...there were a million abortions done a year under the table. All banning abortion would do is move it back to those circumstances. And since we all know that no state would be willing to fully enforce jailing women who have abortions, just like with prohibition, then the ban is doomed to fail.

Never understood pro-lifers, their viewpoint on abortion is doomed to fail just like in every other country where abortion is banned

It just destroys the credibility of the state where it already has record low credibility. But who knows? Maybe they can say they are closing gender gap in America's prisons and creating jobs? 5 by 25 could the post-Roe GOP slogan. 5 million in prison by 2025.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2016, 09:45:51 AM »

This one won't last long when the higher courts get it, but Kasich is simply a pandering dick.
Probably. It would be great if these were his actual views, though....if he were actually moderate.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2016, 03:09:27 PM »

66% of Americans agree with a twenty week ban. Let's not pretend this is some radical position to take.
They also agree with exceptions.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 12:34:30 PM »

Banning abortion is doomed to fail...it's like prohibition.

Before Roe vs Wade...there were a million abortions done a year under the table. All banning abortion would do is move it back to those circumstances. And since we all know that no state would be willing to fully enforce jailing women who have abortions, just like with prohibition, then the ban is doomed to fail.

Never understood pro-lifers, their viewpoint on abortion is doomed to fail just like in every other country where abortion is banned

Both of my parents are only alive because abortion was illegal in California until Reagan legalized it in 1967, four years after my father was born and seven after my mother. My father's mother was 17 when she gave birth to my father, and my mother's mother was 16. The latter has even told my mother that she'd have been aborted if it hadn't been illegal in 1960. Don't pretend banning abortion doesn't reduce it. That's horsesh**t.
Anecdotes don't equal reality, especially if you look at Central America and the Middle East.

My baby momma's grand mother and her mother had an abortion. I think for every abortion that is dissuaded, another abortion occurs because detterence has replaced prevention.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2016, 09:10:57 AM »

66% of Americans agree with a twenty week ban. Let's not pretend this is some radical position to take.

I made the mistake of reading the comments section of some articles about the ban.

Got to read some ignorant, wicked people declare that a twenty week fetus is not human. My child is nearly twenty weeks old. It can kick with enough force that it can be seen through my wife's clothes and gets scared if it hears loud noises. If the baby was aborted it would die in agony. And yet some are willing to call it an unperson. Its monstrous.

Our society sacrifices its most vulnerable among us and calls it choice.

Yeah. That's called being a smart business owner and saving the taxpayer's money and getting lazy people back to work!
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2016, 01:28:44 PM »

Weird seeing people get so worked up over this.  I always thought abortion was something that brings out the kid in you.

lol

That's Alt-Politically Incorrect.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2016, 03:39:08 PM »

Weird seeing people get so worked up over this.  I always thought abortion was something that brings out the kid in you.

Dammit.

I still laugh when I see it
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