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« on: August 27, 2016, 08:13:07 PM »
« edited: August 27, 2016, 08:31:21 PM by Spicy Purrito »

How do you think the neoconservatives feel? Though in a way, just as with cultural issues, he's not abandoning hawkish or authoritarian personal policies but simply changing the goals and the how. He no longer wants to invade a country and rebuild it if it is seen as a threat, he just wants to eliminate these nations as a threat and try to make the adventures pay for themselves some way. With social issues, like Cruz, sees Government, not the free market of ideas, as the definer of the culture. He, like the altright and Euronationalist Right sees the standard being race-based while those like Erdogan and Cruz see the standard being religion. That said, there are overlapping of issues but it simply seems to me that the lynchpin of the conservative movement could be shifting to align itself more with the direct grievances of conservatives. Especially those conservatives that are conservatives for reasons that nonconservatives don't understand.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 05:50:09 AM »
« Edited: August 29, 2016, 05:52:08 AM by Spicy Purrito »

My guess is isn't that they are going away, they are just reconfiguring their rallying point from "compassionate conservatism" to "law and order". This probably isn't even the first swing like this.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 12:03:58 PM »

Now they'll all move to the Democratic Party! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Depolarization would definitely keep both parties alive. It could be the start of a detente but no one would be happy. There is a reason so few loyal yellow dogs  and gypsy moths remain.

I don't think the socons are going anywhere. They will simply change their orientation and who they ally themselves with. In the Bush years, it was an Evangelical movement that allied itself with the neoconservative movement to build a globalistic "compassionate conservative" coalition that made immigrant groups competitive. Now, they see that they are losing their kids for not much ground in battle (the military seems to be their version of college for those that can get into it but not the best private schools). So now they are looking for a more organic alliance with the alt-Right to protect their interests without the need for more traditional benefits that they oppose. "Replace the social safety net and labor regulations with tariffs and infrastructure spending".
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