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MarkDel
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« on: October 21, 2005, 11:42:00 PM »

Ok, to my Republican friends on this forum...you know I have some pretty darn good contacts on both sides of the aisle from my days working on Capitol Hill, and I have spent a lot of time on the phone the past two days. Here's the story...

1. We have HUGE problems that will emerge over the next few weeks. Contrary to what the Demoncrats want to believe, it has nothing to do with Tom Delay, who will be found innocent on all charges and will eventually return to his role as House Majority Leader. The Delay thing is NOTHING to worry about.

2. BUT...the Patrick Fitzgerald investigation is about to EXPLODE in our faces in a bigger way than I ever could have imagined. Despite no real hard evidence beyond inference and "common sense" supposition, Fitzgerald will proceed with a host of charges against a host of people up and down the Bush administration. This issue will not stop at Rove and/or Libby. Get ready for the 2005 version of Iran Contra.

3. In addition to the Fitzgerald investigation, it's about to become painfully clear at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings that Harriet Miers is lucky she can write her name in the ground with a stick. Having talked to more than one staff member of the Committee (staff, not Senators) I have been informed that she knows virtually NOTHING about Constitutional Law and will surely make a fool of herself at the hearing.

4. SO the next 6 months will be horrific, but remember this...in 1987/88 we suffered through Iran Contra AND the Bork Nomination, and the media was jerking off all over itself at the prospect of Republican failures in the 1988 Election. BUT, we won...easily, so do not get disheartened at what will be a terrible start to the new year 2006.

As for Democrats on this forum, my advice is to go purchase a large supply of KY-Jelly since you will no doubt spend most of your time wacking off (and I wouldn't want to see you guys get too chafed) at the Republican nightmares of the next few months. By the time your allies in the Media get done with these scandals, you will actually have a legitimate chance to take back the House and/or Senate in 2006, and that no doubt makes your pathtic little wieners (the party of anti-american pacifists simply MUST have small peckers) get all tingly at the prospect. The only thing that could save the Republican Party in 2006 is that we do get to run against...YOU...and by the time you guys get done shooting yourselves in the foot with your Moveon.org rhetoric that scares the piss out of the American people, we may just dodge a major bullet in 2006 and hold onto both Congressional bodies.
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MarkDel
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2005, 12:17:32 AM »

JFern,

Yeah, I'm dense. You're telling me that the Media leans right and I'm dense. The Media may be right of YOU and the most extreme elements in the radical wing of the Democratic Party, but the Media is wayyyy to the left of mainstream America. And just because Judith Miller had some schoolgirl-like crush on Scooter Libby, that doesn't mean the New York Times and Pinch "Thank God My Daddy Was Rich or I'd Be Homeless" Sulzberger are right wing.
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MarkDel
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2005, 12:30:04 AM »

JFern,

The "liberal media myth" has been re-examined over and over again. Statistics trump your "black helicopter" like view that giant corporations tightly control the newsrooms. Do I have to trot out the mountain of stats about the political ideology of reporters, writers, etc...this stuff has been analyzed to death and the results are clear as day...
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MarkDel
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2005, 12:33:42 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2005, 12:37:20 AM by MarkDel »

Well, at least there is some light at the end of the tunnel.  Welcome back again Mark.

Supersoulty,

There is, but I'm telling you that DARK f%$cking days lie ahead...LOL

I have advised all fellow Republicans with short tempers to take up a new hobby in the weeks to come...don't watch TV news, it will be too depressing.

On a better note, I just got an e-mail from my Cousin who is back in Iraq for Tour #2, and he tells me that things there are FAR better than our left wing media buddies are saying.
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MarkDel
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2005, 12:36:52 AM »

JFern,

First of all, Pat Buchanan is an even better candidate for a Rubber Room than you are, so quoting him on anything is laughable. He was and is a staunch critic of the Iraq War, so he will say or do anything to enhance his anti-war position. Second, outdated statistics??? From last year??? One of these days you need to explore lucidity, it is a vastly underrated state of being.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2005, 12:41:14 AM »

JFern,

Is the casualty rate the only measure of success in a War? I realize that you Democrats would never pass up a chance to score political points at the deaths of US soldiers, but surely there is more than one criteria when you analyze how well, or poorly, a war is progressing.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2005, 12:51:19 AM »

JFern, you need help, serious help.

Gabu, I thought I would add some humor to a very depressing post from my point of view. You can tell from JFern's spirited mood that he does indeed have his hands down his pants these days as he watches the problems unfold for Republicans...LOL
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2005, 12:53:39 AM »

JFern,

So, it is your position that the President of the United States would willingly kill 2,000 American soldiers to gain hold of a good political issue, that is what you're saying, right?
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2005, 08:09:07 PM »

I hope I'm wrong but from what Mark is saying it sounds pretty bleak this time around.

If I recall correctly, Mark said very strongly that Kerry was going to win in 2004 and that there was nothing to be done about it.

Gabu,

Not exactly. What I did say about a week before the election was that it was more likely than not that Kerry would win, and if he did, I was reminding Republicans of their duties as Americans to not behave in the same fashion that Democrats have done the past 4 years. I could go find the exact post if you like.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2005, 08:15:40 PM »

Mark,

It doesn't surprise me that Miers is not worth much.  A lot of us including myself were all over her on day one her the boards.

I have been getting a very bad feeling about the Special Prosecutor these last two days.  So it doesn't shock me that some one might get indicted soon.

Dark days?  Maybe.  But its always darkest before the dawn.  Perhaps some demons need to be excorcised before the party can get its bearings again.  And we had lost our way long before Quagmiers and Rovegate.



I have to agree with you here, John.

The Republican congress has behaved disgracefully on spending, and stands for nothing at this point beyond the maintenance of its own power.  Denny Hastert has become our own Republican version of Tip O'Neill -- big, fat and out of control, at least with respect to government spending.

Of course, I hate the Democrats, and view them as a worse alternative.  But politics should be about a little more than choosing the party you hate the least.  Every party needs a good jolt occasionally to wake up those who have led it astray.

John Ford/Dazzleman,

While I certainly agree with you that the Republican Party is in need of the political version of an "enema" I do not agree that this is a good time for that to take place. If this were a different time in our history, we might be able to afford a Democratic Presidency, but their party has moved so far left on issues of national security that we cannot afford to let one of them sit in the White House in the 21st Century. Perhaps when the Democrats have conquered their own demons and purged themselves of the "Utopian Pacifists" who now dominate their rank and file, then we can endure another Dem in the White House. But for now, Republicans need to put off internal battles for the good of the nation, otherwise I foresee a day when the daily suicide attacks we see in Iraq will be commonplace on US soil, or a major attack will be carried out here involving nuclear and/or chemical weapons. The Democratic Party has firmly established that they do NOT take the threat of Islamic Extremism/Terrorism seriously, and the very future of our nation would be in question with the wrong person sitting in the White House at this moment in history.
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MarkDel
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2005, 08:16:32 PM »

I just want to confirm to all newcomers that Mark is a reliable source.  He gave  us the John Edwards information 12 hours before the mainstream media broke it.



Boss Tweed,

Thanks, I know that had to hurt considering how much you dislike me.
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MarkDel
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2005, 08:26:23 PM »



2. BUT...the Patrick Fitzgerald investigation is about to EXPLODE in our faces in a bigger way than I ever could have imagined. Despite no real hard evidence beyond inference and "common sense" supposition, Fitzgerald will proceed with a host of charges against a host of people up and down the Bush administration. This issue will not stop at Rove and/or Libby. Get ready for the 2005 version of Iran Contra.



Do you believe that Fitz may go as high as the President and Vice President?  I doubt either could be indicted, but maybe unindicted co-conspirator?

Do you think that any of the charges will stick or will most be dismissed?

Thanks.

Nick,

Those would seem to be the relevant questions. Unfortunately, I don't have a definitive answer to all of those questions. What I was told by someone I know at Justice is that Rove and Libby will be indicted soon, and other indictments are being prepared over the next several months. Apparently, Cheney will also be named as unindicted co-conspirator in the Rove/Libby/Plame scandal. Also, Fitzgerald is attempting to build a case accusing administration officials (all the way up) of manipulating intelligence related to the decision to go to war in Iraq. Now this is wayyyyyy beyond the power of his mandate, but my source tells me that the normally sensible Fitzgerald has gone NUTS with power and seems to be taking on this role of "ultimate arbiter" on all matters related to decision to go to war in Iraq.

Do I think Rove and/or Libby get convicted? No, they will definitely not be convicted of "outing" Valerie Plame since the evidence there is beyond weak. But, they MAY get convicted of Perjury and/or Obstruction of Justice. As for the other rumored stuff....who the hell knows...it will be too political to predict. Personally, I can't see how Bush, Cheney or anyone else can be in any real legal jeopardy, but in modern America, all that matters is politics, not the truth, not the law, nothing...so who knows what will happen.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2005, 08:27:48 PM »

Nice to know you're thinking of us when you don't want us getting chafed, Mark.

Also nice to see you back. I'm interested in some more details on this, if you have any.  This could be the first really interesting political story (albeit bleak for the Republicans) in a while.

Nation,

I thought you had seen the light and changed to a Republican, what happened?
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