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Question: If Trump wins in 2020, should Ruth Bader Ginsburg allow herself to be put into suspended animation/hibernation, to ensure that she is preserved?
#1
Yes, it is her duty.
 
#2
No, she should resign today and Trump should nominate Amy Coney Barrett to succeed her.
 
#3
Maybe.
 
#4
Only if she is descended from King Tut.
 
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R.P. McM
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« on: January 17, 2020, 08:52:26 PM »

In reality though, since ours is one of the worst, she'll probably die after Trump gets re-elected and finally the GOP will get to turn our country into an even bigger right wing "utopia" (really a dystopia).

She's an egotistical moron for not resigning in 2014. But whatever happens, we don't simply have lie down and take it. In realpolitical terms, CA is much more powerful than any sparsely populated state in the interior West. So it's entirely up to the voters of CA, NY, IL, etc., when this nightmare ends. We don't have to continue to coexist in an undemocratic system dominated by increasingly feeble rural whites bereft of any actual economic/technological/military power committed to the preservation of racial privilege.
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R.P. McM
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2020, 11:08:29 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2020, 01:47:40 AM by R.P. McM »

If Trump is reelected, I think the Democrats could have a shot at getting the Senate back in 2022.

If RBG can hang on until then, she can retire on January 4, 2023 and the Senate Democrats can Merrick Garland anybody Trump nominates to replace her.

If Trump is reelected by a minority of the electorate, and RBG somehow survives ... No thanks. We have to the power to demand democracy, and the will to achieve our ends. No sense in begging for handouts from increasingly impotent rural whites.
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R.P. McM
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2020, 11:58:32 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2020, 10:49:07 AM by R.P. McM »

SCOTUS term limits.  One term, 18 years long, each seat staggered so that a vacancy occurs every two years.
I love how this idea emerged from the left only after Trump appointed justices to the supreme court.

After the GOP stole a seat and rendered the Court illegitimate, I think you mean.

I've been advocating for this for years. Wherever the first prototype cryo chamber is on earth, it needs to be sent to Ginsburg's home where she may only leave it when the Supreme Court is in session.

In reality though, since ours is one of the worst, she'll probably die after Trump gets re-elected and finally the GOP will get to turn our country into an even bigger right wing "utopia" (really a dystopia).

Worst case with the Supreme Court may be Trump losing in  a landslide and Dems winning the Senate but RBG's seat becoming vacant days later so Republicans ram through Amy Coney Barrett in the lame duck.

Jesus f***! You're right! That is worse!

You're polishing the brass on the Titanic. Of course Mitch McConnell is a completely unprincipled, undemocratic, partisan cancer. The day he shuffles off this mortal coil, the world will be a better place. But the current Supreme Court is already illegitimate, so there's very little sense in fretting over the prospect of it becoming even more so. A judicial body that a minority of rural whites have entrenched undemocratic control over — through anti-normative/traitorous/racist means — simply cannot be respected. We seize power (democratically) and remake the Court however we like.  
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R.P. McM
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 01:37:13 AM »
« Edited: January 20, 2020, 01:50:53 AM by R.P. McM »

Even without all the Republican Supreme Court chicanery, replacing RBG with a conservative would be catastrophic for our nation. It would turn a Supreme Court with a tenuous ideological balance into a Court drastically tilted to the right - Thomas (Thapar after he retires), Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Coney Barrett would form a conservative block that's near unbreakable. John Roberts would lose complete control of the court, and many landmark decisions could be at risk - including ones seen as untouchable today, like the VRA, for instance. The left (a big chunk of the nation) would see the Court, the last bastion of nonpartisan thought in the nation, as corrupted permanently. While I try not to be too partisan with these issues, I firmly believe that RBG must survive until a Democratic president is inaugurated, so the Court can stay balanced for as long as possible. The alternative - which is now scarily plausible - would be an unmitigated disaster.

"Balance" is a joke — you need to stop lending cover to partisan Republicans. Likewise, the death of the egotistical Ginsburg would be a godsend. People would learn to view the Court as illegitimate, and question why the social mores of AL — pretty much disgusting from the 18th century onward — should enjoy undemocratic weight relative to those of CA. They shouldn't, and we don't have to respect their illegitimate judicial decisions or even share a country with increasingly enfeebled rural whites.
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