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Question: Will the GOP ever appeal to Minorities?
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They took R Jobs!!!
 
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War on Want
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« on: April 27, 2009, 02:21:22 AM »

In 40-50 years the idea of minorities will be going extinct and I would assume things would be based mostly on class lines and some issues we have no idea on. I have the feeling the GOP will start to pick up lots of Asian support 10 or 20 years from now as they will more likely will moderate, while the Democrats move to the left. I think asians demographically will also become much more of elites and suburban types as opposed to what they are now.
Latinos will come next but I think they will always lean towards the Democrats to an extent. Family values to a latino is very different that family values to a gringo and I don't think most people grasp that. I see Latinos still trending towards the Democrats for the next 10 years and then sliding back as they become more suburban and immigration patterns shift.
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War on Want
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 10:06:53 PM »

In 40-50 years the idea of minorities will be going extinct

Are you saying they will be hating cyclists instead?
Yeah cyclists are a menace to society.
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War on Want
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 01:47:11 AM »

extinct?

In other countries there can be partially integrated minorities for millennia that are still massacred in bloodbaths when times are tonight. 
I am an optimist on ideas on minorities and immigration for obvious reasons but I think that if you look at America's history we are unlike any other country when it comes to immigration. Our immigrants have been absored at extremely fast rates and have been fully integrated at extremely fast rates. Will this likely change in the future? I doubt it, Latinos are assimilating at very fast rates and I have confidence that as more and more of them become middle class that opinions of them will begin to go up. This will translate towards more interacial marriages and more of them in mostly white communities.

My point isn't that Whites won't be a majority in the future, it is that the predjuidices towards minorities will be mostly gone. This is harder with Blacks for pretty obvious reasons and I think the one area of the country that will remain much like it is today is the South. 
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War on Want
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 03:35:54 PM »

Speaking of minorities, how much impact would there be if the Jewish population in the United States switched party affiliations from Democrat to Republican, based on President Obama's position regarding Jewish settlement growth on Palestinian territory? 

I highly doubt the Jewish would switch parties just because of that issue. They may shift towards Republicans, but they will still be majority Democrat.

Bush & McCain both supported a more amnesty leaning plan just to get Hispanic support. Personally the GOP can get some hispanic votes, it was just almost impossible in 2008. Possibly some in Nevada & Colorado. Arizona & New Mexico I doubt it.

As President Reagan once said, Latinos are Republicans, they just don't know it yet. Not only are they religious, but, in my experience in a 20% Latino state, they tend to be entrepreneurial and self-reliant. They only become more Republican in the second and third generation Latinos, when they become middle-class and pay more taxes. By the time they reach the fourth generation, they're almost indistinguishable from whites in terms of standard of living and voting patterns.

A friend of mine put it this way. The first generation works in landscaping. The second owns a landscaping business, which allows them to send their third generation children to college.

If Republicans were more empathetic to their situations, supported a guest worker program and the like, without supporting amnesty, they could seize the majority of the Latino vote.
I have to disagree here. From my experience in having a Mexican family, Latinos might be self-reliant and very capitalistic, at the same time they don't see much of a social stigma in accepting government help and they are very communal. I have the feeling that Latinos will always be at least 60-40 or 55-45 Democratic voting, but will still be considered the ultimate swing vote.
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War on Want
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 03:31:45 PM »

I am not talking about encouraging or subsidizing it. I am just recognizing the reasons for illegal immigration and why these people had to break the law. I just want to give them a path to citizenship and at the same time try and reduce future illegal immigration.

By your logic, somebody is justified in murdering their girlfriend because she verbally abused him. I can empathize with the murderer, but he still broke the law and killed somebody.

What's wrong with waiting a year or two to enter the US?

By the way, you contradicted yourself. You want to reduce illegal immigration, yet won't amnesty only give Central Americans more incentive to cross the border illegally?

I can sympathize with those who would've qualified for a guest-worker program, as we should have had one years ago. But again, it's a slap in the face for those who waited their turn.

I can empathize with all of them in fact. But, that doesn't change the fact that they broke the law. They committed a crime, and most likely stole a job from an American because they'll do it for a few dollars less. Do we really want that? Especially in the bad economy.
That is a terrible comparison...
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