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War on Want
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Junior Chimp
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« on: December 19, 2009, 09:22:03 PM »

     So this bill makes it a crime to not have health insurance? Can't say I like that idea much, though I guess it makes practical sense.

Yeah but I don't think anyone is getting put in jail for this. They will just be taxed more and if they don't pay that they will face the same consequences you face anyways today for not paying taxes. And I must say this is one of the bills I really approve of. I am much more apprehensive about mandates on small businesses.

     Even if they are merely taxed at a higher rate (nevermind the tax load already suffered by the lowest earners) rather than prison time, isn't that still just punishing someone for a victimless crime?

This is not punishment, rather incentives. If we are going to force insurance companies to cover those with pre-existing conditions, we must make sure people can't just not have insurance until they need it. If we did that the sick would have to pay extremely high premiums. Individual mandates are the right and fair thing to do and it exists in most western countries. And means tested subsidies will be available to those who can't afford it so it's not as if people would have to choose between health insurance and other necessities.

Call it what it is - a poll tax for something of dubious value (government-mandated insurance that covers unnecessary things like mammograms and pregnancy coverage for men - no sex discrimination in policy pricing, remember - that's good enough for health insurance, where young men would otherwise be better off, but not for car insurance, where young women would be unjustly penalized - natch) that might better be served by saving plus owing a non-government sanctioned catastrophic insurance policy.
I'm pretty sure that penalizing people for not buying health insurance by forcing them to pay a tax is not a poll tax, it is being responsible so that we can rid ourselves of Government MIA programs but whatever continue with your outraged, teabag hero, hyperbole.
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War on Want
Evilmexicandictator
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,643
Uzbekistan


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -8.00

« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 10:47:55 PM »
« Edited: December 19, 2009, 10:51:47 PM by Trollin' Mode »

I'm pretty sure that penalizing people for not buying health insurance by forcing them to pay a tax is not a poll tax, it is being responsible so that we can rid ourselves of Government MIA programs but whatever continue with your outraged, teabag hero, hyperbole.
It's a tax on someone by virtue of breathing.  You can't alter your behavior to avoid it - except to die.  Therefore, it IS a poll tax, by definition.
Actually you could buy health insurance to avoid it. Therefore technically it isn't a poll tax.
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