Top 15 Best Presidents of All Time

[Frenchrepublican]

Tier 1.

1. Jefferson
2. Lincoln
3. Washington
4. Coolidge
5. Reagan
6. Eisenhower

Tier 2.

7. Teddy Roosevelt
8. GHW Bush
9. Madison
10. LBJ

Tier 3.

11. Kennedy
12. Monroe
13. Andrew Jackson

Tier 4.

14. Adams
15. Grant

[Frenchrepublican]

Tose who are putting Obama in their list should really explain their rationale

[Frenchrepublican]

Tose who are putting Obama in their list should really explain their rationale

Why? Your list does not make any sense and nobody is asking you about it....

How does my list does not any sense ?

The presidents I have listed have either significant policy accomplishments or had a great influence over the course of American history. It’s the not the case of Obama.

[Frenchrepublican]

Tose who are putting Obama in their list should really explain their rationale

Why? Your list does not make any sense and nobody is asking you about it....

How does my list does not any sense ?

The presidents I have listed have either significant policy accomplishments or had a great influence over the course of American history. It’s the not the case of Obama.

I mean, Poppy Bush arguably had neither, either, yet he's somehow #8 in your list.

Meanwhile, Obama was stellar at economic management & public persuasion, pursued universal healthcare, commanded moral authority, etc.

You seem to love alternative facts ? Right ?

GHW Bush basically managed the transition from the Cold War era to the Contemporary era (and without a lot of troubles). Add to that his masterful oversight of the Gulf war where he was able to gather the support of the international community.

Obama on the other hand was really bad on foreign policy and on domestic policies most of his achievements were done by executive order and have been undone by the dude with yellow hairs.
And LOL at the fact that Obama was great at public persuasion (remember 2010 midterms ?)

[Frenchrepublican]

Tose who are putting Obama in their list should really explain their rationale

Why? Your list does not make any sense and nobody is asking you about it....

How does my list does not any sense ?

The presidents I have listed have either significant policy accomplishments or had a great influence over the course of American history. It’s the not the case of Obama.

I mean, Poppy Bush arguably had neither, either, yet he's somehow #8 in your list.

Meanwhile, Obama was stellar at economic management & public persuasion, pursued universal healthcare, commanded moral authority, etc.

You seem to love alternative facts ? Right ?

GHW Bush basically managed the transition from the Cold War era to the Contemporary era (and without a lot of troubles). Add to that his masterful oversight of the Gulf war where he was able to gather the support of the international community.

Obama on the other hand was really bad on foreign policy and on domestic policies most of his achievements were done by executive order and have been undone by the dude with yellow hairs.
And LOL at the fact that Obama was great at public persuasion (remember 2010 midterms ?)

LOL "alternative facts"? Project &/or cherry-pick much? It's a cool story, bro, but here's where you're wrong.

Poppy Bush didn't bring the Cold War era to an end so much as the Soviet Union's inability to sustain itself did. And it's the very fact that the Cold War ended which destabilized Afghanistan, allowing the Taliban to take over & al-Qaeda to set up terrorist camps there that led to the Middle East's current s**tfest of fun. But yeah, "[not] a lot of troubles," amirite? And yes, while his oversight of the Gulf War was indeed "masterful," the domestic economy was pretty poor at the time, & being seen as only caring about fighting foreign wars rather than worrying about domestic issues isn't good.

On the other hand, Obama's foreign policy was a mixed bag, not "really bad." Under his presidency, America's soft power & reputation abroad significantly improved, & his foreign policy arguably consisted of more good things than bad: the bin-Laden raid; Cuba; the Iran Deal, the Paris Agreement. Trump wanting to Ctrl+Z Obama's foreign policy doesn't negate it. As for his domestic achievements, yes, all of them (the economic recovery, the ACA, Wall Street reform, the repeal of Don't Ask/Don't Tell, etc.) were obviously executive orders. And my friend, you're blind if you never saw that Obama was exceptionally charismatic.

LOL. And me who thought that Trump cultists were crazy; but it seems that Obama cultists are even worse.

his presidency, America's soft power & reputation abroad significantly improved : Yeah, you should talk to European leaders who had their phone tapped at the request of Obama

the bin-Laden raid : more symbolic than anything else

Cuba : Yeah, it was a big jackpot for the Castro family, but otherwise not really

the Iran Deal, the Paris Agreement. : Yeah, these agreements were so great that he didn't even seek the Senate approval, knowing they would be heavily rejected

the economic recovery : that's cyclical. Read Schumpeter

the ACA : are you talking about the thing which led House democrats to lose 63 seats ?

Wall Street reform : very effective, the 5 largest banks have now a larger share of Financial assets that in 2010

repeal of Don't Ask/Don't Tell, : very important stuff

[Frenchrepublican]

Tose who are putting Obama in their list should really explain their rationale

Why? Your list does not make any sense and nobody is asking you about it....

How does my list does not any sense ?

The presidents I have listed have either significant policy accomplishments or had a great influence over the course of American history. It’s the not the case of Obama.

Did you forget FDR? If not, that's odd given he helped save your country.

Are you talking about the dude who :
-tried to pack the SCOTUS because it ruled against some of his measures ?
-refused the concept of separation of powers when it didn't fit his views ?
-put American citizens just because they were of Japanese backrounds in camps without any trial ?
-created many wasteful social programs/ineffective administration in order to buy votes ?