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« on: April 20, 2018, 01:16:56 PM »

"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 01:31:12 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2018, 01:49:10 PM by StateBoiler »

"The progressive left" and "the labor left" increasingly don't get along with one another.

I don't think that a bunch of corrupt bosses who are chummy with Cuomo are representative of the labor left.

So union bosses are corrupt? Is that an official statement? Do we apply that to all union bosses or just the ones that support Cuomo? If we're only applying that to the ones that support Cuomo, that's a pretty poor argument unless you have evidence on these particular union bosses that demonstrates they are corrupt that we can pass on to the New York SBI.

Democrats' hold on labor has been weakening for some time. Obama did not give a sh**t about them and national labor bosses in 2012 said as much while still supporting the Democratic ticket. I also wonder how many union labor voters Trump won in the 2016 election - rank-and-file, not leadership. Tariffs is also a pro-union issue for a lot I'm thinking (I don't back tariffs, but I think a good number of rank-and-file union members do.) Public service labor's opinion of my local decade-long Democratic Party Mayor is he sold them out and threw them to the wolves (city council) to lose collective bargaining. They responded by not volunteering at Democratic Party campaign activities.

Get down into policies, progressives and labor voters are just diametrically opposed to one another on a number of issues. Otherwise, why is the WFP splitting? Progressives are Waxman and labor are Dingell to recall an infamous committee chair switch.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2018, 08:04:10 AM »
« Edited: September 13, 2018, 08:08:19 AM by StateBoiler »

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If Nixon loses the primary, withdraws by running for an Assembly seat with the intention of losing on purpose, and then the Working Families Party try to nominate Cuomo for governor after everything that has occurred, the WFP are spineless spineless cowards. You can't even use the "not split the vote" excuse, no one thinks Molinaro can win.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 08:22:04 AM »

If the Working Families Party try to nominate Cuomo for governor after everything that has been said and done, I don't want to hear or read sh**t from that segment of the New York political spectrum again, because that is politically bankrupt. That's as bad as Republican Never Trumpers that suddenly became his biggest supporters in public.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2018, 08:47:10 AM »
« Edited: September 13, 2018, 08:56:20 AM by StateBoiler »

If the Working Families Party try to nominate Cuomo for governor after everything that has been said and done, I don't want to hear or read sh**t from that segment of the New York political spectrum again, because that is politically bankrupt. That's as bad as Republican Never Trumpers that suddenly became his biggest supporters in public.

What sense would it make to remain on the ticket? If Nixon loses, she should withdraw. Same for Cuomo if he loses (small chance).

The Working Families Party in order to have ballot access in New York are required to have their candidate for governor get 50,000 votes. So the WFP will have a candidate on the ballot or they don't have ballot access for the next 4 years.

The only reason Nixon got the WFP line is they were livid at Cuomo and hate him. If they crawl back with their tail between their legs and beg for forgiveness of Cuomo and choose to nominate him, everything WFP members said, everything a lot of people on this thread the past few months have said, they are admitting it was all complete bullsh**t if they put Cuomo on the WFP line and vote for Cuomo in November.

I do actually like the concept of fusion and wish it was in more states, but if the only purpose of the WFP general election ballot access is to influence the Democratic primary election, why do they have general election ballot access? That is the single biggest argument the New York Green Party makes against the WFP and why progressive votes for the WFP does not aid progressive causes, and this situation exemplifies it.

And this is all assuming Cuomo will even accept the WFP line. It's not like he needs it to win. He in fact could kill the group as happened to the Liberals by Nixon withdrawing, Cuomo refusing the invitation, and the WFP are forced to run a nobody.
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