NY Post: Valerie Jarrett leaked Clinton email details to media

[Old Man Willow]

It wouldn't surprise me. Obama is a petty man and a liar.

[Old Man Willow]

It's absolutely hilarious that Obama would be concerned that Hillary isn't a true "liberal" when their positions are the same on 95% of the issues. It's not like Obama is a Warren or Sanders progressive who goes after Wall Street and could attack her from the left.

The only thing he ever had over Hillary was Iraq, on which he had the convenience of not being in the Senate at the time to vote on. That didn't stop him from proclaiming himself the anti-war candidate and saying he opposed the war when it was "politically unpopular" to do so, even though at the time Obama was serving in a 90% Democratic district, and therefore wouldn't have to bare the consequences of a politically unpopular decision.

He has shown himself to be an absolute coward in every sense since then, from his gay marriage flip flop in 2008, to lying to primary voters about NAFTA while assuring Canada behind their back, to his embarrassing off-mic comment about having more flexibility with Russia after the election. So I think it's pretty clear how he would have voted had he been in the Senate in 2002. I truly despise this man.

[Old Man Willow]

It's absolutely hilarious that Obama would be concerned that Hillary isn't a true "liberal" when their positions are the same on 95% of the issues. It's not like Obama is a Warren or Sanders progressive who goes after Wall Street and could attack her from the left.

The only thing he ever had over Hillary was Iraq, on which he had the convenience of not being in the Senate at the time to vote on. That didn't stop him from proclaiming himself the anti-war candidate and saying he opposed the war when it was "politically unpopular" to do so, even though at the time Obama was serving in a 90% Democratic district, and therefore wouldn't have to bare the consequences of a politically unpopular decision.

He has shown himself to be an absolute coward in every sense since then, from his gay marriage flip flop in 2008, to lying to primary voters about NAFTA while assuring Canada behind their back, to his embarrassing off-mic comment about having more flexibility with Russia after the election. So I think it's pretty clear how he would have voted had he been in the Senate in 2002. I truly despise this man.

Your simply wrong about Iraq, Obama was opposed to it from the start, and in fact you can see the speech he made in 2002 which was against the war.

And please, Obama won in 2008 because he offered a vision for the country, and didn't make stupid comments to the press about Robert Kennedy

I'm talking about 2002. You are aware that the Iraq Senate vote was in 2002, right? Not sure what point you're contesting.

Obama offered no "vision" for the country, just lame platitudes that his hipster base gobbled up.

[Old Man Willow]

It's absolutely hilarious that Obama would be concerned that Hillary isn't a true "liberal" when their positions are the same on 95% of the issues. It's not like Obama is a Warren or Sanders progressive who goes after Wall Street and could attack her from the left.

The only thing he ever had over Hillary was Iraq, on which he had the convenience of not being in the Senate at the time to vote on. That didn't stop him from proclaiming himself the anti-war candidate and saying he opposed the war when it was "politically unpopular" to do so, even though at the time Obama was serving in a 90% Democratic district, and therefore wouldn't have to bare the consequences of a politically unpopular decision.

He has shown himself to be an absolute coward in every sense since then, from his gay marriage flip flop in 2008, to lying to primary voters about NAFTA while assuring Canada behind their back, to his embarrassing off-mic comment about having more flexibility with Russia after the election. So I think it's pretty clear how he would have voted had he been in the Senate in 2002. I truly despise this man.

Your simply wrong about Iraq, Obama was opposed to it from the start, and in fact you can see the speech he made in 2002 which was against the war.

And please, Obama won in 2008 because he offered a vision for the country, and didn't make stupid comments to the press about Robert Kennedy

I'm talking about 2002. You are aware that the Iraq Senate vote was in 2002, right? Not sure what point you're contesting.

Obama offered no "vision" for the country, just lame platitudes that his hipster base gobbled up.

FFS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po

Do you now accept that Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq from the start?

10 million more Americans with health insurance, unemployment down, open relations with Cuba, support for LGBT rights, passed the Stimulus act, reformed Wall Street, tried to close down GITMO (something the GOP stopped)

And please, Obama won in 2008 because he offered a vision for the country, and didn't make stupid comments to the press about Robert Kennedy

Neither did Clinton, but believe what you must.

Yes she did, do you remember her comments that she was staying in the race because Bobby Kennedy got killed in '68. She always was a Eugene McCarthy fan though

I never contested that he opposed the war from the start. If you read my post you would see that I was simply stating that his view on the war was not comparable with Hillary's. He did not cast a vote on it, he was not a national politician and and he was serving in a 90% Democratic district.

He basically implied that he put his career on the line to oppose the war, which was blatant lie. And he has shown none of this supposed "courage" since he's been a national figure.