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« on: December 05, 2019, 12:21:18 AM »
« edited: December 05, 2019, 01:09:23 AM by Deluded retread Vice Chair LFROMNJ »

This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.
I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

I didn't realize you changed your display name so I wasn't expecting it when I was smacked in the face by the obliqueness and sheer disdain for nuance in this take.
How is it untrue?

And please note, blaming racism for her defeat is actually calling black voters racist as they're the ones who overwhelmingly preferred Biden (and even Warren and Sanders.)

Your playbook is clearly to throw out totally unsubstantiated exaggerations. Your entire operation for this whole primary has been based on strawmanning, and not even in the service of any actual argument. You can continue accusing people of reducing Kamala dropping out to "just, like, racism and stuff" all you'd like, but nobody's making that argument, so you're really just masturbating to your imagination in front of some thousand-or-so nerds on the internet.

I just quoted examples of it in the OP.

There's not really any "defeat" in an election with 30 candidates in which no one has yet voted; and I don't care if Biden is winning 100% of black poll responses, because I'll repeat for like the third time that this discussion has nothing to do with how black people have responded to polling. The implication that Harris' only possible lane was to mobilize a bunch of black voters against white people is disgusting and would be edited out of even the most outlandish work of political fiction. Likewise, the implication that it would be impossible for black people to harbor racial bias against people of Indian descent is also laughable, though I doubt that was a defining factor in this race. Or, did you forget that Kamala is half-Indian?
nah, I'm really aware. I just don't think that was a factor at all in her failure to pick up.

I'm so sorry that some Kamala staffer was a little mean to you once or something, I guess.

It's more that her supporters on Twitter (and some here, see Pittsburgh for Kamala) were f[inks]ing insufferable. And honestly no one has managed to provide a good rebuttal to the main reason I opposed her: her awful policies involving jailing parents for their kids cutting class.

You can oppose Kamala Harris all you'd like, but talking about how racism and sexism affect our elections and media is not "labeling any criticism as racism/sexism" and plenty of legitimate critiques of her campaign are standing just fine. Nobody's blaming everything on one factor. Even the (deeply misguided) people that think if you're a black woman you need to just automatically vote for "the black woman" never really said that.

People pushed narratives about Kamala Harris that were not fair play; that was in part inspired by racist and sexist urges. The unnecessarily early hit-campaign about the Willie Brown rumors alone show that. Kamala Harris was unable to convince enough potential voters that she should be the Democratic nominee, and a large part of the reason why is that public opinion was shaped early on by a smear campaign totally unrelated to policy proposals, one designed to tarnish her credibility with young, white, self-identified antiestablishment men. This was done in the open and to claim racism or sexism are totally irrelevant non-factors is ridiculous for that reason.

nah, I'm really aware. I just don't think that was a factor at all in her failure to pick up.

Good to hear, unironically.

Yes Im sure Kamala would have made it far and high without dating Willie Brown. She's a true strong independent woman.
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