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lfromnj
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« on: November 15, 2018, 06:27:57 PM »

The house flipped in 1994 2010 2006 and 1982(conservative coalition is republican IMO)
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 11:06:18 PM »

Levels of defeat:

Once-in-a-generation, politics redefining trouncing:
1994

Very bad:
1974, 2010

Bad:
1986, 2006, 2014, 2018

Moderately bad:
1982

Meh:
1970, 1990

Midterm victory:
1998, 2002
Putting 2018 in the same category as 2014 is a joke. GOP was +1 in the senate and the house districts they won were in selective areas.
An election with a 40 house seat swing is obviously less of a wave than one with a 13 seat swing.


Republicans gained 9 seats in 2014 , and actually won 2 seats the Dems were favored in (CO and NC).


The Dems lost a seat they were favored in (FL)
I think any reasonable observer would conclude that 2018 was a worse Midterm for the presidents party then 2014 considering that, Republicans started the 2018 cycle with a massive House majority secured by gerrymandering, urban clustering, and the incumbency advantage, along with a Senate map with 10 Democratic senators in Trump states that could be targeted. However, with all these structural advantages they managed to lose almost 40 House seats and only gain a paltry 2 Senate seats. In 2014 Democrats had none of these advantages, and knew they were going to lose badly in 2014, which they did. It’s actualy quite pathetic how bad Republicans lost this Midterm when you think about it, LMAO.

gerrymandering was overrated in 2018. In many scenarios it backfired or just didn't work or it was fixed. Texas and Nj  are 2 examples of backfired gerrymanders.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2018, 12:27:50 PM »

This is the greatest annihilation of Rs in the House since 1974 and with 3.7% unemployment. Fun!


Only if you go by number of seats and that is mainly due to the GOP having more seats this decade than they have had in a very long time.


2008 IMO was a far greater annihilation of Republicans in the House than this

yeah 2008 is probably the biggest wave to me since the 30's. 60 SEnate seats+ 260 house seats +8 percent popular vote victory while winning 3 states that haven't been won since LBJ.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 09:27:54 PM »

This is the greatest annihilation of Rs in the House since 1974 and with 3.7% unemployment. Fun!


Only if you go by number of seats and that is mainly due to the GOP having more seats this decade than they have had in a very long time.


2008 IMO was a far greater annihilation of Republicans in the House than this
If not for Republican gerrymandering, this year would have been an even bigger defeat.

Anyways, Republicans can say whatever they want but this year was a BLUE WAVE!

So either the Republicans had an awful night or their gerrymandering was just that overrated.

I think what we've seen is that gerrymanders that paired suburbs with rural areas mostly stood up to the wave—see Ohio, Wisconsin, North Carolina—but gerrymanders that relied in part on 100% suburban districts fell because of the changes in voting patterns, and fell only in those 100% suburban districts.

That plus the impact of court-drawn, court-adjusted, and commission-drawn maps opened the door to Democrats winning as many seats as their vote share.

It's clear, though, that balanced maps in Ohio, North Carolina, Indiana, and Texas (near Austin and DFW) would have yielded even more seats for Dems in keeping with their totals.


yeah nc 9th had obama trump ruralish areas and romney clinton burbs. They cancelled each other out in 2018.
Instead in Texas it nearly reached true burb stomping areas as the panhandle or East Texas wasn't fajita stripped.
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