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pantsaregood
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« on: November 30, 2018, 09:24:16 PM »


Not quite. Florida fails out of pure incompetence. North Carolina always fails because the NCGOP is cartoonishly evil.
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pantsaregood
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 12:23:30 AM »

I would have voted for McCready in the GE this time around. But, if I lived in NC 9 and there was a special election, there is a decent chance that I would flip my vote to Harris because I don't believe it is ok to have the election invalidated because of alleged fraud (again, I trust Bladen county too) that is not even enough for McCready to catch up if you take that into account.

Honestly I have no clue what will come next. Hopefully certification. But if it is a special election, McCready should be considered the slight favorite from a neutral and strategic standpoint, regardless of your opinion of each candidate.

You are ignoring two factors:

1. Harris could end up in prison. Electoral fraud is not treated lightly.

2. You're assuming that McCready needs to "make up the gap." That's not how electoral fraud works. The integrity of the election is at stake - for all we know, 5,000 absentee ballots for McCready were destroyed. The election is tainted to the point that no valid results can be discerned from it. At this point, the Board of Elections certifying the election would be equivalent to "Harris probably won, but who knows?"


You've mentioned that you "trust" Bladen County - the issue is that there's clearly something here that's illegitimate. There is reason to not trust the elections, and the entirety of the NC Board of Elections has recognized this.
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pantsaregood
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 08:06:09 PM »

Does it really matter what happens?  Dems have a comfortable majority now, and this seat strikes me as a 2-year rental for Dems if they do manage to take it in an SE.

Not really. It mostly just needs to be handled because the election, as is, was illegitimate.

I wouldn't bet (either way) on it being a rental. It's an R+8 district in a state that's trending D consistently. It's not impossible that a Democrat could continue to hold the seat if the district continues to trend D.

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pantsaregood
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2018, 09:07:42 PM »

What’s taking them so long to order it ? The large-scale voter fraud is extremely clear at this point.

I'm wondering the same thing. This is a no-brainer at this point.
Because the fraud wouldn't have changed the result. If you left out the fraud Harris would still have won. This scheme only affected a couple of ballots, not enough to take out Harris.
Calling a special election would be unfair, it would automatically put the republicans at a disadvantage, with the DCCC bombarding the district with millions of dollars, calling Harris a criminal and making it seem like it was McCready that was the victim here.

What's your source on the fraud not changing the result? We know that ballots were submitted with results that the voters likely wouldn't have chosen, but that doesn't account for any number of ballots that just weren't submitted due to this operation.

Also, you seem to be implying that something is wrong with calling Harris a criminal. Electoral fraud is a crime. Committing a crime, by definition, makes him a criminal.

McCready isn't the primary victim, either. The voters of NC are the victims.
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