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« on: May 05, 2020, 07:56:35 AM »

...and I am saying that you are wrong. The reason why these allegegations PROBABLY (not certainly) won't do that much harm to Biden, is almost solely because they aren't credible. If Biden had the list of credible accusers that Trump has he would be finished. Completely. Dead. That's the difference. Democrats care about credible assucations of sexual harassment. Republicans by and large, do not.


You seem to have great confidence in Democratic voters, a sort of confidence that in this era of extreme polarization, is sorely misplaced. You continue to adhere to the line that Biden could end up losing by a landslide margin were allegations of this nature to surface. Against Trump, I doubt it. And you are very confident about your analysis of my arguments.
I wouldn't call it confidence, more like realism.

The thing is, I don't personally think that this, if it was true, would be disqualifying for a political position at all. Rape is one thing (and I most certainly do not consider this to be rape, no more than a woman grabbing a man's penis should be considered rape), but typical male sexual aggressiveness should not be considered disqualifying IMO. And that includes a lot of the creepy stuff Donald Trump has done (again, excluding the actual rape accusations). It also includes what Kavanaugh did. I actually found Kavanaughs behaviour at the hearing disqualifying, not the dumb thing he pulled as a college student.

In general, I think it is tragically overlooked that the main reason why many men exhibit sexually aggressive behaviour is because women have tended to reward them for it. That doesn't make it right, but it certainly makes it understandable.

Now, as a good mamas boy, who have always treated women with respect and has never exhibited any sort of sexually aggressive behaviour (and hence has been much less sexually succesful than my less polite brethren), I would very much welcome a change in culture. But unless that culture does change, I find it really hard to fault many men for doing what elevates their status and their interpersonal succes. And I certainly do not find it disqualifying for a political position.

Yeah, this does not read well and really is bordering on rape apology.

If Biden were guilty, there is absolutely no question in my mind that he should be replaced - even if the accusation constituted "typical male sexual aggression" rather than rape, it would only indicate how poor ideas around sexual behaviour are and in any case, the accusation is NOT normal behaviour. The evidence is overwhelmingly in his favour so we aren't going to have to deal with it but I really think you need re-read what you have posted.
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Granite City
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2020, 07:58:08 AM »

But of course this thread would degenerate into seemingly respectable Democrats passing off PUA bullsh**t as rationalization. ing unreal.

What do you mean by this? When I looked up "PUA", I came up with "Pandemic Unemployment Assistance".

Pickup artist stuff I think? You know those guys on YouTube harassing women because "it's what they actually want".
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