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« on: April 05, 2014, 06:47:09 PM »
« edited: April 05, 2014, 06:50:11 PM by Former Moderate »

Mozilla is essentially a non-profit dedicated to "doing good" in the Internet realm. The people who work there, by and large, do it because they believe in its mission. There are plenty of better places to work in the area if you're looking for a killer payday.

As a result, the company culture at Mozilla is very socially conscious -- even moreso than the rest of Silicon Valley. Eich's hiring was a severe and intolerable cut from most employee's moral paychecks.

Sure, those of us in the tech journo space got some solid clicks off the dispute, and OKCupid got some cheap publicity exploiting the issue. But at the end of the day, Mozilla's employees -- the rank and file -- found Eich's hiring as CEO to be counter to the Mozilla culture. Eich, for his part, showed absolutely no skill in mitigating the issue and proving that he was, in fact, part of the culture despite his support of Prop 8. He argued that employees had to respect his lack of tolerance as part of the organization's tolerance culture, and that lots of employees from the Indonesian branch were in agreement with him that gays need to be stopped from marrying. An internal revolt developed before an external one did, and the former was more damaging anyway. Eich had to go.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 06:59:39 PM »

Mozilla has an Indonesian branch large enough to create an "internal split"?

No, the issue isn't that the Indonesian branch was aligned against the U.S. branch, it's that the U.S. branch was aligned against Eich. Eich was just using the Indonesian workers as cover -- in the "see, not everyone in the company disagrees with me" sense.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 07:20:01 PM »

I don't know what on earth you're talking about.  Unmarried people haven't decided to get married.  They may not have a serious, committed relationship or they may not want to get married.  That's totally different from gay people who cannot get married, even if they have a serious committed relationship and they want to get married.  It's about the equality of being allowed to get married at all.  No offense, but you're clearly being obtuse as an argumentative strategy.  There's no point in having this conversation if you're going to be willfully obtuse.

I said lack of Equal Protection affects everyone who's not married. My statement was not a prompt for misguided rationalization of the virtues inherent to discriminating against people who don't want to be married.

If we cannot have a conversation, it's because you cannot understand the complexity of the issue.

lol, you're being such a moderate hero conservative hero
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 07:28:48 PM »


Am I wrong that this was almost entirely an issue driven by people internal to Mozilla, and not the "gay rights" bogeyman? The only external issue I saw was OKCupid's protest page. After that, I've read a lot about Mozilla's culture of openness, social activism, etc. and how Eich was a bad fit and not popular even before the Prop 8 issue arose.

You're correct. The only reason why this got to the place it did was that the internal Mozilla team was in revolt. After the news hit the tech blogs, OKCupid decided to capitalize on the issue and blocked Firefox connections to its site. That news jumped to the mainstream news, and then partisans started getting involved, and now it's the worst example of liberal abuse ever since Barack Hussein Benghazi shredded the constitution to whatever whatever whatever.

Mozilla staffers publicly trashed their CEO on Twitter because he was the antithesis of what drove them to work at Mozilla in the first place. There was no retribution, because the people who were in power to deal the retribution were the ones slamming the CEO the worst. Opposition to Eich went, for lack of a better term -- viral inside the company. The board gave him some time to right the ship, but he couldn't. Things were getting worse by the day. There was no way the guy could stay on.
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