Do any Democrats here wish that Obama didnt win in 2008?

[Mr.Phips]

I generally lean Democratic and I am very sorry that Obama was ever elected President.  I dont feel his short term victory in 2008 was anywhere near the long term pain it is going to cost the Democratic party. 

This is a weak, weak President in one of the worst economic situations in history.  I would have thought that quite a few Democrats would have known this would happen in 2008 and pulled the lever for McCain(as I did) in order to stop the Democrats from being blamed for these next disastrous few years. 

If Obama can get a healthcare bill through, his election will have at least been partially worth it my view, but if not, he deserves to go down as a disaster that never should have happened.

What do other Democrats here think?

[Mr.Phips]

Biden probably would have been a better President, HW is right. But obviously Obama is far superior to four more years of Bush (i.e. McCain).

In all honesty, save the stimulus, I can't really see a McCain Presidency being much different from Obama's. He had to leave Iraq because Bush signed that treaty to get out by 2011, and there would be a fight over health care as Democrats would try to push it anyway.

Without the stimulus things would be much, much worse. And any meaningful health care reform wouldn't have passed with a Republican president. Maybe some random tax credits and other useless garbage.

Apparently it doesn't pass with a Democrat president either so don't be a hack, vlad.

Tax credits is the best we are ever going to do on healthcare in the US.  Even getting that would be a pretty good accomplishment.