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minionofmidas
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« on: November 18, 2007, 01:47:56 PM »

This has already been discussed between me and Jas in the Irish General discussion thread
For easy reference: It's on page 5.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 01:48:47 PM »

It just occured to me that it probably isn't a coincidence that County Westmeath is west of County Meath.  I know one county besides County Meath was mostly or entirely in the old Kingdon of Meath or Midi, and that was probably County Westmeath, which would have been in the west of Meath.  I can be slow sometimes.

Too bad for the people of Kerry South likely being in an effective two-seater for the next election.  Still better than our one-seaters I guess.
Not really. Two seaters with PR are basically the same thing as doing without elections altogether. Chile has them, btw.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 01:57:08 PM »

I know it's confusing, also some of Westmeath has been divided into Meath West to balance out the population; though thankfully we put our counties name's first and then the relative location so we say Meath West for the constituency based in the west of Meath and West Meath. Confused, eh? Wink

Oh and for record the Kingdom of Meath was more than just Meath and Westmeath but also Longford and South Co. Louth. North Co. Louth was traditionally part of Ulster.
I want the constituency renamed Meath West & Westmeath East!
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 04:21:44 PM »

While having nothing to do with Irish politics, I'd like to point out that there exist the towns of North, South Carolina, and Due West, South Carolina.
That's nothing compared to West East Westphalia.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2007, 06:01:35 PM »

fell in love with Northern Irish politics (how is that possible, you might be thinking). 
You are exhibiting signs of a strong politico-masochistic inclination.
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Hmmm... I've been thinking about doing something about Germany on British-sized constituencies recently...
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Ooh - kind sir - please don't spare me!
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 08:35:22 AM »

While having nothing to do with Irish politics, I'd like to point out that there exist the towns of North, South Carolina, and Due West, South Carolina.
That's nothing compared to West East Westphalia.

My translator site renders "westliches Ostwestfalen" as "western East Westphalia" which isn't quite as ridiculous.
Which is why I wrote "West East Westphalia". Grin
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Except that North isn't actually the Northern part of South Carolina, and isn't even named for the compass point, but for a Mr. North. Then again, Ostfalen ("Eastphalia") is long extinct as a term, and Falen ("Phalia"?) never existed, so Westphalia's relation to the West is somewhat tenuous as well. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 08:39:43 AM »

Hmmm... I've been thinking about doing something about Germany on British-sized constituencies recently...

Sounds interesting.  What's the current size of the Bundestag and what would it be with British-sized (English-sized and single-member I presume) constituencies?
Current size is 598, but of course there's only 299 constituencies. I was thinking of 100,000 inhabitants per seat (we're currently using citizen inhabitants as the basis, btw. Changing that would of course increase representation for major cities. Grin Though also for South German suburbia. Sad ) giving a little over 800 seats.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 09:57:22 AM »

I have a book based on Ostphalian Platt so it is not extinct Smiley.
As a historians' or linguists' specialist term, maybe not. Ask people on the street to find it on a map and you'll not get very far. 25% will say no such thing exists, and another 65% will think they misheard and that you meant to say Ostwestfalen.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2007, 10:25:04 AM »

The book is named "Eck freue meck". It is tales on Eastphalian language.
I bought it in Göttingen some ten years ago.
I think the term could be known in that area.
Göttingen is not in historical Eastphalia. Eastphalia was further northeast, around Brunswick and on the other side of the Lower Saxon - Saxon-Anhaltine border.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostfalen
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