Ireland General Discussion

[minionofmidas]

All three, ie including the FG one(s?) ?

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If this was any other political party, I'd be certain that Kenny was doomed. But it's Fine Gael, and I've assumed Kenny was a goner after the George Lee resignation, and after the previous MRBI poll, and the powerful gombeen wing of Fine Gael seem intent on sticking with Kenny.

Thanks, I learned a new word today!

[minionofmidas]

So, early next year we might see a government lose power, not through a general election, not through a coalition partner walking out, not through defections, but through some by-elections. Hilarious.

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Final count    

Mary Coughlan         Fianna Fail             
 10,530        9,964        9,964    
Pat Gallagher       Fianna Fail            
 9,606        9,976        9,976    
Dinny McGinley       Fine Gael            +82       +1,032    
 9,167        9,249        10,281    
Pearse Doherty       Sinn Fein            +89       +712    
 8,462        8,551        9,263    

where 9964 is the quota, the second count was the redistribution of Coughlan's surplus, and the third count was the elimination of all three others (one Labour, one Green, one indy).
The + figures are the votes McGinley and Doherty gained on the second and third counts; Gallagher's mini-surplus was never redistributed.

[minionofmidas]

Irish goalkeeping legend, Packie Bonner would be approached but nothing seemed to come of that - which is all the excuse I need to link to, watch and well up again to this.)

That video is unavailable in my local dictatorship, but is it anything like this?

Cllr. Barry O'Neill (Fine Gael)
36. A sports producer with RTÉ.
O’Neill has been a Councillor for the Donegal local electoral area since 2004 when he scraped the last seat. Topping the poll in 2009 made him the frontrunner to be the FG nominee at the next General Election when the incumbent FG TD is expected to stand down.

A win for O’Neill would be a significant boon to Fine Gael – so far he’s been completely under the radar. The media have been running with the notion that SF ought to be making the running here, but O’Neill gets the much maligned Jas early favourite tag. 

I think by now you're jinxing candidates purely out of spite when you call them "favoured".

[minionofmidas]

Hope they drop to fourth place.

FWIW, the first poll's out, by Red C, showing Sinn Féin's Doherty leading easily.

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[minionofmidas]

So no collapse by by-election then?

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Fianna Fáil ministers are meeting now.
With the prospect of failing to pass a budget now very much within the range of possibilities, what odds on a decision to immediately go for an election? Or in light of crumbling support, Cowen to make a statement on stepping down?

Taoiseach to dissolve Dáil after December budget - Irish Times

February or March? Can he really last that long? Looks unlikely after today...

[minionofmidas]

Poor Brian Cowen. He looks the part of "useless gobshite"... which is almost a perverse incentive to root for him.

[minionofmidas]

I'll take over from Kevin.

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For completeness sake, third count was Pearse Doherty (+1452) 15,188, Brian Ó'Domhall (+278) 7,636, Barry O'Neill (+871) 7,313, Thomas Pringle (+272) 3,763. Which means 502 untransferable.
Transfers on the fourth count would be Doherty +1709, O'Donnell +433, O'Neill +869, untransferable 752

[minionofmidas]

The state of the nation summarised for your convenience:

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[minionofmidas]

Sinn Féin ahead of Fianna Fáil...wow.

Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "fail".

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Which is probably not a good thing, right?

[minionofmidas]

This is the case of applicant number 3, where the Court ruled unanimously in favor:

C.  The third applicant (C)

22.  On 3 March 2005 the third applicant had an abortion in England believing that she could not establish her right to an abortion in Ireland. She was in her first trimester of pregnancy at the time.

23.  Prior to that, she had been treated for 3 years with chemotherapy for a rare form of cancer. She had asked her doctor before the treatment about the implications of her illness as regards her desire to have children and was advised that it was not possible to predict the effect of pregnancy on her cancer and that, if she did become pregnant, it would be dangerous for the foetus if she were to have chemotherapy during the first trimester.

Unless, I'm missing something, it was the life of the fetus that was in trouble from the mother and not the other way around. The cancer and abortion were the mother's causes of bad health.

Highlighted. Always glad to be of assistance.

[minionofmidas]

The inevitable finally happened today...

The government fell?

[minionofmidas]

Do we know who the fourth extra aye is?

[minionofmidas]

Cabinet's very Dublinocentric.

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Also, "justice, equality and defence"?

[minionofmidas]

This must happen.

And he must win. And Jas must cringe. And I must rejoice.

Please God, make it so.

[minionofmidas]

Rest in Peace. 52 is not old.

FF now down to one seat in Dublin - do I remember that right?

[minionofmidas]

Ah, right. Hanafin didn't make it. So, yeah.

[minionofmidas]

Lmao. Bertie Ahern exposed as corrupt, expelled from FF. What next - Pope exposed as Catholic, expelled from priesthood?

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Actually one thing of note with these results is that if these were to occur at a GE the only possible government would be FG-FF... which would be something.

That would require FG to still be the bigger party; I can't see their self-regard allowing them to be the junior coalition partner to their social inferiors.

I read that post and thought Jas was back.

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Shinners still not leading.