Native American concentrations

[minionofmidas]

Well, I was kinda including thinking Hawaiian natives as native american...though, of course they're polynesian by ancestory...they're "native" to Hawaii...

There *are* some Native Hawaiians who concur with that reasoning.

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It's probably far more complex than that, but they're certainly no Dem voting bloc. Also notice that intermarriage with Whites has been very pronounced, and lots of people defined as Native American in Oklahoma would be viewed at first glance as White elsewhere. And Congressman Brad Carson, who held that seat before Boren and lost the Senate race to Coburn, was a Native American according to Oklahoma standards.
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In New Mexico, it seems to me an optimal Dem gerrymander would add more of the southeastern counties to Udall's district, so that it becomes less heavily Democratic-leaning, while adding Northwestern areas to the CD in the South to make it a plurality Latino/Native American district...

[/quote]Don't forget the difference between North New Mexico Hispanics, who consider themselves Spanish, and vote, and vote heavily Democratic, and South New Mexico Hispanics, who consider themselves Mexicans, and don't vote in nearly as large numbers.
And of course, a NM gerrymander is made harder by the Pueblos. Central NM is a patchwork of White, Hispanic and Native American settlement.

Rick Renzi's district in Arizona could probably be gerrymandered to be considerably more Native American, by including the nonvoting Hopi and the Colorado River tribal areas and drawing some White Republican areas out.

[minionofmidas]

Distribution of Native American population

Yeah, this was sort of a redistricting project really...hey, it's Native American and Alaska Native Heritage Month!
All figures heavily rounded with likely rounding error. All figures single race Native Americans according to 2000 census.
New England - 42K
New York City - 41K
New York state, remainder - 41K
New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware - 40K
Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky - 49K
Ohio, Indiana - 40K
Illinois - 31K
Michigan - 58K
Wisconsin - 47K
Minnesota - 55K
North Dakota - 31K
South Dakota - 62K
Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas - 49K
Missouri - 25K
Robeson County, North Carolina - 47K
North Carolina, remainder - 53K
South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee - 51K
Florida - 54K
Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas - 52K
Louisiana - 25K
Tulsa county, OK - 29K
14 counties roughly NE to NW of Tulsa - 56K
10 counties roughly E and S of Tulsa - 60K
11 counties centred on OK City, bordering districts mentioned above - 61K (details if anyone asks)
Oklahoma, remainder - 61K
Texas north of and including Loving - Crane - San Saba -Lampasas - Bell - Milam - Robertson - Leon - (blessed if I could read my handwriting, seems to begin in Ho) - Hardin - Jefferson  - 48 K
Texas, remainder - 51 K (both figures way too low due to obscene rounding, 118K together)
McKinley county, NM - 56K
San Juan and Sandoval counties, NM - 57 K
New Mexico, remainder - 60 K
Apache county, AZ - 53 K
Navajo county, AZ - 47K
Maricopa county, AZ - 57K
Cochise, Graham, Greenlee, Pima, Pinal, Santa Cruz counties, AZ - 47K
Coconino, Gila, La Paz, Mohave, Yavapai, Yuma - 52K
Colorado - 44K
Utah - 30K
Nevada - 26K
Montana - 56K
Wyoming, Idaho, Hawaii (because it doesn't fit anywhere else) - 33K
Skagit, Whatcom, Snohomish, King, Pierce, Island, San Juan, Kitsap counties, Washington - 46K
Washington, remainder - 47K
Oregon - 45K
Alaska SE of and including SE Fairbanks, Fairbanks North Star, Denali, Matanuska-Susitna, Lake & Peninsula - 49K
Alaska, remainder (incl. Aleutians) - 49K
Los Angeles CCD and those Los Angeles County CCD's situated to the West or SW of it - 35K
Los Angeles county, remainder - 42K
Orange, San Diego, Imperial counties - 47K
Riverside, San Bernardino, Kern, Inyo counties - 50K
Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Monterey, San Benito, Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, San Mateo, San Francisco, Alameda, Contra Costa counties - 53K
Central Valley, areas E and NE of Sacramento as far as Sierra Co (inquire for details) - 50K
Sacramento county, Northern California - 51K

Purpose of the exercise, of course, was to get a grip on the spatial distribution of the Native American population of the US, in absolute terms.

[minionofmidas]

Tulsa county, OK - 29K
14 counties roughly NE to NW of Tulsa - 56K
10 counties roughly E and S of Tulsa - 60K
11 counties centred on OK City, bordering districts mentioned above - 61K (details if anyone asks)
Oklahoma, remainder - 61K

You could use the OTSA for OK.

Yeah, I might have. I might do it again with those if I have time.

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Houston.[/quote]Yeah, I've checked since. Houston's the name.

Who were you counting as Indians?  If you count non-Hispanic who included AIAN as one of their races, except if one is HPI, there are around 143K.  Though perhaps some of the Asian & AIAN are actually Asian Indian (there is a bit of a concentration in Fort Bend County, for example.[/quote]I counted only those who checked only AIAN, no matter whether Hispanic or no. This includes a number of people most people would consider Hispanics, but should get rid of Asian Indian misidentifiers (not necessarily all Hawaiian misidentifiers though), and of the Wannabee Nation. Anyways, it was a readily available figure.

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Central Texas meaning the Austin area? I wanted to leave that with San Antonio. That made including all of East Texas with Dallas necessary. (Well - there was an alternative, but that would have put El Paso into the Northern district instead.)
Anyways, the three Texas tribes are quite interesting in their history but also quite minuscule in numbers. The bulk of Texas' Indian population is of Oklahoma overspill decent.

[minionofmidas]

Here's an attempt...
Cherokee; Miami, Quapaw, Ottawa, Peoria, Miam i- Peoria Joint Use, Eastern Shawnee, Modoc, Wyandotte, Seneca-Cayuga; Osage, Pawnee, Kaw, Kaw - Ponca Joint Use, Ponca, Tonkawa, Otoe-Missouria 94K, of which Cherokee alone 76K - 2 seats, a Southern one purely in Cherokee, and a Northern one connecting the NE and NW (divided by semicolon in list) clusters of smaller OTSAs.
Creek, Seminole, Creek-Seminole Joint Use, Sac & Fox 60K, of which Creek alone 51K
Choctaw, Chickasaw 53K (30 and 53 respectively)
Cheyenne - Arapaho, Kiowa - Comanche - Apache - Ft Sill Apache, Caddo - Wichita - Delaware, Kiowa etc - Caddo etc Joint Use, Citizen Potawatomi - Absentee Shawnee, Iowa, Kickapoo, area outside of OTSAs 59K, of which area outside OTSAs alone 27K (mostly in Oklahoma City)

[minionofmidas]

I doubt Ysleta del Sur people are a majority amongst El Paso county Native Americans though... on my definition there are 6000 Native Americans in El Paso.
Btw, I think it might be possible to split the state East-West rather than North-South (again on my figures, I assume on your figures the AIAN populations in South Texas are going to be smaller than on mine). The Houston and DFW areas plus anything east of the interstate connecting them is only somewhat over half the state's Native American population, well within the bounds of what I accepted elsewhere.