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minionofmidas
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« on: May 23, 2005, 11:20:53 AM »

We had this test up before, a year ago or so, but I wanted to draw attention to it again.

Take it.

It's a three-dimensional test. That is, it has three axes where the Political Compass has two.
Unfortunately, it doesn't provide a fancy graphic or your exact value for the three dimensions, but you can actually tell quite a bit from your result.
For example, take my result:
Liberal 100
Anarcho-Syndicalist 74
New Labour 70
Totalitarian 57
Libertarian 47
Traditional Societies 37
Authoritarian 30
Conservative 4
Any result with Liberal 1st should have Conservative 8th - they're on opposing sides of 0 on all three axes.
Same thing with Anarcho-Syndicalist and Authoritarian, New Labour and Traditional Societies, and Totalitarian and Libertarian.
The results at 2, 3, and 4 should be on the same side of 0 as your no.1 result on two of the three axes each - making it possible to tell on which of the three axes you're closest to 0, on which furthest removed.
The percentages are not all that informative since their recalculated to 100% for the top result, but everyone's first, second and third places should be highly informative.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2005, 11:51:48 AM »

Hm. Seems like it doesn't always work the way it's supposed to do.
Otherwise Bono's four and five would have to be the other way round.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2005, 12:24:16 PM »

Hm. Seems like it doesn't always work the way it's supposed to do.
Otherwise Bono's four and five would have to be the other way round.

Not really.
I loath lew labour, and am farly traditionalist personally.
(NOTE: I voted for the "states rights" option where it was availeble).
Yes...I have no problem with your results as your results, they fit you well...but they're not logical according to the axes model described in the preface to the test. Fourth place (and everything after) should be predictable from first to third places.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2005, 02:43:49 PM »

I took the test, and like Soulty got a cluster of results near 100%. I would guess that the method used to normalize the first choice to 100% skews the view of the results. More likely, Soulty and I both ended up with answers that put us near the triple zero of the chart. Thus all 8 results would be relatively close. Since the results finder tries to convert something to 100% all results get pulled up with it.

This is why the chart method of the PC is a better visulaization tool.
Yes, that definitely is the case. Both paras of your post. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2005, 02:46:12 PM »

Surprisingly, I do not go around thinking of myself as an Anarcho-syndicalist Tongue

3: Traditional Societies  (91%)


Do you really wear a penis sheath and lip disk as formal attire?
Smiley
Yes, he does. Check the "post a picture of yourself" thread if you don*t believe me.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2005, 04:06:31 AM »

1: New Labour  (100%)
2: Liberal  (97%)
3: Totalitarian  (73%)
4: Authoritarian  (69%)
5: Anarcho-syndicalist  (69%)
6: Libertarian  (69%)
7: Traditional Societies  (44%)
8: Conservative  (36%)

Uh, how the hell am I equally authoritarian as I am libertarian?  Aren't those opposites?
No...totalitarian and libertarian are opposites. Authoritarian and anarcho-syndicalist are opposites.
Obviously some of the names for sectors are a little unlucky.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2005, 04:11:20 AM »

No...totalitarian and libertarian are opposites. Authoritarian and anarcho-syndicalist are opposites.

Well, in that case, I still got 69% in both authoritarian and anarcho-syndicalist, which still does not make any sense.
Ah, sorry, my bad. You might be on the zero point on one of the three axes, though.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2005, 05:38:26 AM »

Just thought people should be able to read the last line of Ebowed',s signature.

"Reg'd in SC for fantasy elections - a good image here "
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2005, 09:54:01 AM »

It's got a number of problems. Unfortunately it's the only threedimensional test I found (we had another one up months back, but I don't know where to find that one again.) And I think a threedimensional model is better than a twodimensional one (as the "Political Compass" is).

Like all those Selectsmart tests, it reweighs the strongest answer to 100%. You really have to look at the first three answers to get a sense of where you stand.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 05:51:28 AM »

Ah yeah. I remember that one.

I note a "Vosem" bumped this... any relation?

Oh btw. Re your sig. Brezhnev's answer is very lifelike Cheesy (the others not quite so much.)
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 06:01:28 AM »

Liberal 100
Anarcho-Syndicalist 74
New Labour 70
Totalitarian 57
Libertarian 47
Traditional Societies 37
Authoritarian 30
Conservative 4

(100%) 1: Liberal
(76%) 2: New Labour 
(74%) 3: Anarcho-syndicalist 
(55%) 4: Totalitarian   
(47%) 5: Libertarian   
(37%) 6: Traditional Societies   
(28%) 7: Authoritarian   
(4%) 8: Conservative

Wow, it changed some. Tongue
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