Austrian Parliamentary Election - Sept. 29

[minionofmidas]

One wonders how "war beim Heer" vs "war Zivi" splits, though.

[minionofmidas]

Excellent. (Carinthia. Nö not so much.)

[minionofmidas]

What's with the ÖVP support in the far western corner?

[minionofmidas]

omglol

[minionofmidas]

The "election helper" from the Wiener Zeitung is now online too !

This one has 30 questions.

My results:

84% Greens
80% KPÖ
71% SPÖ
62% FPÖ
60% Pirates
43% NEOS
40% BZÖ
34% ÖVP

http://wahlhelfer.wienerzeitung.at/index.php?survey=14

KPÖ 80
Greens 76
NEOS 54
Pirates 54
SPÖ 52
FPÖ 48 (lol. Near absence of nazi questions has something to do with that I suppose, letting their economic populism shine)
ÖVP 30
BZÖ 30

Same problem with the other one that everybody else is reporting. Probably some browser related issue is my guess.

[minionofmidas]

Also currently picturing election eve coverage as the atlas poll's results come in as actual election results.

[minionofmidas]

Indeed; works just fine if it's in a window of its own.

KPÖ  +239
Greens +238
Pirates +189
NEOS +56 (comparing with previous test... hmmm.)
SPÖ -70
Stronach -118
BZÖ -118
FPÖ -122
ÖVP -140

Why does the Wiener Zeitung ignore Stronach btb?

[minionofmidas]

Liechtenstein for example has 1 hour poll openings as well, yet they always have 90% turnout.

Much of that has to do with high postal voting though.

And the effect of that on the secrecy of the ballot is, of course, wellknown.

Probably they're keeping the polls this closed to prevent wives from disobeying their husband.

[minionofmidas]

The Young Greens have a new campaign ad for young female voters, called "I love my vagina!" - For a self-confident life."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZnHT9sekE0

"Sex for pleasure and not for making children".

I hate to break it to you ladies, but that's *exactly* what happens when you have sex.

Pleasure, you mean? Depends with whom.

[minionofmidas]

Polls in Germany close at six because they have been doing that since nationally uniform poll closing hours first were set in 1919.
(I did once see a picture of an old voter notification from Frankfurt from the Kaiserreich that looked a little - only a little - like an invitation to an official partyish event. That election had 7am to 7pm polling times.)


Yes, every precinct has to stay open until 6pm. Even if every registered voter has voted. Because anyone who requested and then didn't send in a postal ballot can still vote with that in any precinct in the constituency.

[minionofmidas]

The ORF Chancellor debate yesterday was won by Chancellor Faymann (SPÖ), says the IMAS poll for the Kronen Zeitung:

I like how they polled people on what aspect the candidates were better, but "sprachlich verständlicher"? Wtf? "He spoke Tyrolean. I can only understand High German and Viennese."

[minionofmidas]

KPÖ in front of the Trotzkyites in front of Green. ÖVP last by far. Typical result for a German left wing Greenie, I guess. ;-)

KPÖ way ahead, Pirates second but basically tied with SLP (who?), Greens, Wandl (who?). Then SPÖ, then NEOS. Then BZÖ, actually, then two more who? reactions, then FPÖ, CPÖ, ÖVP, EUAUS behind even the ÖVP.

[minionofmidas]

Young(er) Austrian males are horrible. On the other hand, their female counterparts...

The same holds lookswise.

[minionofmidas]

What astonishes me most about Austrian politics is the degree to which pensioners vote SPÖ. In Germany, it's quite the opposite: People over 60 have always voted CDU/CSU, but now we have reached a point where almost two thirds of them do.

This is factually wrong: The FG Wahlen exit polls showed the following results for voters over 60 (difference to all voters in brackets):

CDU/CSU:      49 (+7.5)
SPD               29 (+3.3)
FDP                 5 (--)
Linke               8 (-0.6)
Grüne             5 (-3.4)
AfD                 4 (-0.7)

As such, the overall age-related trends are similar in Austria and in Germany, though their extent (SPÖ strength with old voters, FPÖ strength with young voters) differs.

Why does this net to +6? Because younger voters vote so much for Pirates, NDP and other minor parties?

Mostly that and he's comparing to the wrong set of figures; should have used the exit poll's results rather than the actual results.

CDU/CSU 49 (+6.5)
SPD 29 (+2.5)
FDP 5 (+0.5)
Greens 5 (-3.5)
Left 8 (0)
AfD 4 (-0.

Closer +5.

But yeah, it's mostly that no one over 60 votes for tiny parties that didn't exist when they were young. According to this exit poll, others are at 13% among under 30, 9% 30-45, 5% 45-60, and 0% over 60. That's a bit extreme and probably just plain wrong, but the general trend is normal.

[minionofmidas]

Does the FPO have a strong economic liberal wing that would cause conflict with the SPO? Or are they pretty much pro-welfare state (as long as the $ doesn't go to immigrants, of course)

They used to but the the economic liberal wing broke off in the 1990's. Most of those voters are with Team Stronach, NEOS, or the BZO now.

Make that NEOS (which is an indirect successor party) or the Greens. But that wasn't the economic liberal in the sense of "economically right wing as well" wing - that was the liberal wing full stop (the FPÖ having always been an uneasy coalition of what little of a liberal tradition there was in Austria and, to be blunt, the remnants of the NSDAP).
The answer to the question as posed is "they used to but they broke off in 2005 and formed the BZÖ".

[minionofmidas]

This is an argument against high thresholds for electoral financing. It should kick in much earlier.

[minionofmidas]

And for those who are new to following elections in Austria, the area in the north west of Upper Austria where they're rather strong is indeed where Hitler was from.

But not where his family was originally from, where the FPÖ does badly. Next.

Also, "Grunë"? Austria is of course a Balkan country, but since when do they speak Albanian?

[minionofmidas]

And for those who are new to following elections in Austria, the area in the north west of Upper Austria where they're rather strong is indeed where Hitler was from.

But not where his family was originally from, where the FPÖ does badly. Next.

Also, "Grunë"? Austria is of course a Balkan country, but since when do they speak Albanian?

Where did Hitler's parents originally come from again ? Lower Austria ? Today's Czech Republic ?

Lower Austria, the Waldviertel to be precise. (Pretty near the Czech border IIRC.)

[minionofmidas]

A propos of nothing whatsoever, if Austria had a five percent threshold NEOS would have missed it by exactly 1700 votes, 0.04 percentage points, even more narrowly than the FDP did over here.