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Question: How would you vote as a juror in the scenario described below?
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minionofmidas
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« on: January 03, 2010, 11:11:21 AM »

In addition to what Carl says, the SC has also seen fit to declare it unconstitutional, in death penalty cases only, to take sentencing out of the jury's hands. It is therefore entirely unproblematic to agree to a guilty verdict but hold out for life without parole. (Yeah, so it's a hypothetical. I'm dealing with it.)

If forced to either let a murderer go or conspire in the murder of a helpless individual, I would of course feel morally bound to the bad-but-not-monstrously-evil choice. Not guilty.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 01:19:16 PM »

The Supreme Court as well as others have ruled repeatedly that mandatory death sentences are unconstitutional. I could easily just vote against the death penalty in the sentencing phase, as it must be unanimous to impose it. There's also what CARL said. So the scenario could never happen.
In addition to what Carl says, the SC has also seen fit to declare it unconstitutional, in death penalty cases only, to take sentencing out of the jury's hands. It is therefore entirely unproblematic to agree to a guilty verdict but hold out for life without parole. (Yeah, so it's a hypothetical. I'm dealing with it.)

Let's not assume that the scenario takes place in the United States. Wink
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is another country where both these barbarisms, jury trials AND the death penalty, still survive.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 06:32:28 AM »

If forced to either let a murderer go or conspire in the murder of a helpless individual, I would of course feel morally bound to the bad-but-not-monstrously-evil choice. Not guilty.

We really need to impose a death sentence upon anyone who consistently abuses the English language. Smiley
At least I'm consistent!
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 05:14:24 AM »

Yeah, and I want to take you up on that.

Let's say that the murderer openly says that he will kill again if released. What do you do?
'kay, now our hypothetical is getting way irrational.
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