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« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2009, 11:08:25 AM »
« edited: October 06, 2009, 11:11:15 AM by it is our duty to be mental »

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« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2009, 11:16:03 AM »

Though as a matter of fact, shaded party maps are already available by borough or precinct.
There's no turnout map and their winner map is unshaded, so that might be worthwhile endeavours.











That last map has changed a fair bit compared to 2005. Munich 2005 for the Left still looked a lot like the old West German PDS.
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« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2009, 11:18:55 AM »

My apologies. There is a turnout map.



All of these also available by precinct, btw.
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« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2009, 12:09:51 PM »

Wiesbaden

Darmstadt (navigate via Darstellungsbereich, using the "gesamt" results)

Dortmund (page 8 of pdf has boroughs and local constituencies. A borough map is on page four, while a map of the constituencies is on page 2 of this.

Offenbach'll require some basic math to present even without postals. I might do that later tonight, actually. Kassel webpage is once again wholly uninformative.
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« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2009, 01:58:52 PM »

Offenbach
Format is turnout SPD-CDU-FDP-Greens-Left. Remember that turnout is day voters by eligible voters, just as party strength is day vote only.

11 43.4 27.7-16.6-12.3-17.9-16.6
12 44.8 27.5-21.1-  9.8-17.3-15.7
13 46.3 27.4-20.5-  9.4-18.1-17.0
14 48.0 22.7-20.1-15.8-17.2-15.2
15 49.6 21.2-21.8-17.8-18.4-14.2
16 46.8 26.1-20.0-12.9-17.7-15.4
21 47.4 24.5-20.5-13.0-21.3-13.4
22 49.8 25.9-29.6-14.1-  9.6-13.4
23 52.0 25.6-23.1-11.2-18.0-14.6
24 51.6 26.4-24.2-13.8-13.9-13.9
25 49.7 25.4-26.8-14.7-13.2-12.7
26 56.1 26.6-22.2-16.1-15.5-11.8
31 53.6 24.9-28.0-14.1-12.3-12.3
32 56.6 28.2-26.1-14.7-11.5-12.3
33 57.9 22.8-33.9-16.6-10.3-  9.3
41 43.1 34.3-24.7-  9.2-  7.4-12.7
42 68.0 20.2-29.4-21.0-17.2-  6.9
43 58.2 21.6-31.5-17.4-12.6-  9.5
44 60.4 20.7-32.6-18.8-15.1-  7.5

Left result across the city proper is hilariously uniform. That 68.0 for turnout in Waldheim ain't no misprint. Remember that 33, 43 and 22 are the largest individual units here before you marvel at the sea of red.
Day votes, total: Turnout 52.3, CDU 27.1, SPD 24.5, FDP 14.9, Greens 14.0, Left 12.3
Versus Postals: CDU 34.4, SPD 20.9, FDP 16.3, Greens 13.8, Left 9.1
for a total of: Turnout 66.1, CDU 28.6, SPD 23.8, FDP 15.2, Greens 14.0, Left 11.6
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« Reply #105 on: October 06, 2009, 02:58:34 PM »

Essen by neighborhood,  map

Duisburg by borough or constituency, borough map will do as the only constituency map I've found (didn't spend that long at it) is superimposed on a street map and thus a huge pdf.

Düsseldorf only has precinct and city results up (well, and the two Bundestag constituencies. Not worth much.) And not even a readily apparent way to calculate higher-level results yourself. Probably will have to wait until the next statistical yearbook or something - I know I've found old borough results for Düsseldorf in the past.

Hanover by neighborhood. Pdf basically has our maps already. I think a shaded winner map is missing, though.

Bremen maps. I love their category of "neighborhood not classified - under 1000 inhabitants". Raw data for any of the state's four tiers (including the two cities) be here.

Leipzig by neighborhood. I dunno, I would prefer a borough map here, but there you go. I hope this Neighborhood map is up to date. It's not an official source (as you can see.) There seems to be an issue at Grünau. In case someone (me perhaps? Would have to be next weekend) wants to go to the trouble, this identifies which neighborhoods belong to which borough. So does this overtly huge wiki map which also clarifies things in Grünau.

Dresden requires more work for the weekend. Link has precinct results, it just so happens that precincts are named by the neighborhoods they're in. Order of things seems to be day votes Dresden I, postals Dresden I in same order, day votes Dresden II, postals Dresden II. (And then municipalities outside the city but within Dresden II constituency.) map be here.

Nuremberg by neighborhood. Results page 17, blank map page 18, loads of maps after that.

Stuttgart by neighborhood. Map.
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« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2009, 03:18:31 PM »

Any other places you're particularly interested in? Grin
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« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2009, 12:27:19 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2009, 01:20:33 PM by it is our duty to be mental »

Leipzig by neighborhood. I dunno, I would prefer a borough map here, but there you go. I hope this Neighborhood map is up to date. It's not an official source (as you can see.) There seems to be an issue at Grünau. In case someone (me perhaps? Would have to be next weekend) wants to go to the trouble, this identifies which neighborhoods belong to which borough. So does this overtly huge wiki map which also clarifies things in Grünau.
Just noticed that calculating these by borough could only be an approximation. We have the number of reg.d voters by neighborhood, but turnout and vote shares as percentages only. I think I'll pass.

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working on it. noticed i'll need to combine some areas figure out what's combined in the map already. The descriptions in precinct names are more detailed. Certainly possible (that is , done) for Dresden I.

EDIT: Idiot me. This would have been easier if I'd looked at precinct numbers instead of precinct names. Oh well. At least I had everything right.
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« Reply #108 on: October 10, 2009, 04:05:59 AM »

Hint: Use the leading party map. (It actually extends into the two Green districts south of it too, though.)

The Central PDS Country is making the Green distribution look weird. And lol at leaving Kreuzberg SE-Stralau blank on the CDU map.


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« Reply #109 on: October 10, 2009, 06:25:16 AM »

(It actually extends into the two Green districts south of it too, though.)

Details, details. I still laughed on finding out, anyway. Grin
Hm? The constituencies got redrawn once since the district reform. The former borough boundaries were breached in that. The new Mitte had included seven constituencies before - two somewhat undersized ones each in Mitte proper and Tiergarten, three somewhat undersized ones in the Wedding. Add the area up, and it was closer to six seats than to seven. The southeastern Wedding seat basically got distributed among all its neighbors. So there's parts of the old Wedding in those two neighboring constituencies as well.

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Presumably that area has a lot of DDR-era social housing?[/quote]Not sure if social housing is the right word. Any new building project larger than two or three housing units in the DDR was by the state, basically. It's not that private homeownership or even private renting was illegal or anything, it's just that subsidized credit for it wasn't available at all, with inevitable results (read: decaying inner cities. That by the 80s and 90s often turned into artsy, if at least initially in a very downmarket way, enclaves).

The area were dealing with was bombed quite flat and thus has a lot of 50s and 60s government-built housing. Being centrally located and not of pisspoor quality, it's quite "desirable", in the low turnover sense of the word.

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« Reply #110 on: October 10, 2009, 06:40:47 AM »

The same people who lived there twenty years ago when the world was still whole and the wall was still standing, of course.
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« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2009, 06:44:12 AM »

I know. That's why I wrote "details, details". I don't care if it's strictly accurate - it's still hilarious Grin
You know what?

Precinct maps from page 28
Precinct results

I'm sure you can find yourself a map of the former boundaries and do the math (sans postals) yourself. Grin
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« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2009, 06:57:35 AM »

I know. That's why I wrote "details, details". I don't care if it's strictly accurate - it's still hilarious Grin
You know what?

Precinct maps from page 28
Precinct results

I'm sure you can find yourself a map of the former boundaries and do the math (sans postals) yourself. Grin

Haha - I might do that at some point, yes.
With postals, actually. The list of which precincts are grouped for the postal precincts is at the end of the document with the precinct maps, and I seem to recall it's actually a law that precinct and postal precinct boundaries have to respect the Wall so that the Landeswahlleiter can continue to release East Berlin and West Berlin election results.
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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2009, 03:21:53 AM »

I had a look over changes in registered voters numbers... pretty fascinating.

Federally +0.4
...
Bavaria +1.5
...
Declines in Hof, Weiden, Bayreuth, Kulmbach, Bad Kissingen (but not Coburg) with Hof at -3.1% and the others below -2%.
...

I tried to find an explanation for the odd Coburg numbers (turnout below 70%, number of registered voters growing while population is declining).
The answer is very simple: Compared to the preliminary result the number of registered voters went down by 4,815 in the final result (No idea, how they made up the preliminary numbers). Hence we have Coburg at -1.0% with turnout about 71%.
Some weird summing error presumably.

A note on the oddly shaped West Stuttgart Green borough: It's western half is uninhabited.

A note on Duisburg: Al can't read maps. That port area by the mouth of the Ruhr (Ruhrort, it's called) belongs to the borough facing it across the Rhine.
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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2009, 05:51:49 AM »
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And Dresden's done, one more round, Dresden's done.

Notes: 33, 34 and 44 are uninhabited (or almost so. Wiki lists populations of 89, 43 and 20 or some redonkulous figures like that), not listed in the precinct list, and it's not clear where the few people voted. Best to leave blank. (33 is an industrial area and also includes the airport. 44 is a huge forested common. 34 is almost inaccessible heathland that used to be owned by the NVA.) 46 and 47 share a postal precinct and had to be aggregated, though it's not clear why they do so. Certainly more postal voters in either than in 01, say.
There were only four others on the ballot in Saxony - NPD, BüSo, MLPD and REP, and they got 2.6, 1.0, 0.2 and 0.2 of the vote in Dresden, respectively.

Format is turnout CDU-SPD-Left-FDP-Greens.

01 72.2 26.8-18.3-23.9-14.0-13.7
02 62.8 34.5-17.7-25.2-  9.6-  9.8
03 67.4 34.5-17.9-23.3-12.7-  8.3
04 66.8 32.4-17.5-28.7-  9.5-  7.8
05 52.8 25.7-14.1-22.3-15.0-17.4 must be one weird neighborhood.
06 65.9 28.2-18.6-23.5-11.7-14.5
07 68.7 35.6-16.4-28.1-10.0-  6.2
11 71.2 16.4-16.7-16.9-  9.2-39.1 yeah. Area feels much like Friedrichshain (non-bombed part of).
12 73.3 27.3-13.2-21.3-13.7-21.3 Greens in second.
13 71.7 26.7-17.3-23.9-10.8-19.3
14 68.0 19.7-15.1-22.3-10.5-29.4
15 59.6 30.3-11.8-23.7-11.3-18.8
21 59.1 26.6-13.5-22.0-14.2-20.2
22 60.1 33.3-13.6-23.1-15.2-  9.8
23 60.1 39.2-12.0-20.6-16.0-  6.2
24 71.0 34.0-15.0-22.0-12.7-13.0
25 61.1 32.3-14.2-20.9-15.4-11.8
31 70.8 36.2-14.2-22.8-13.8-  9.1
32 74.4 40.2-13.2-12.7-15.8-  8.9
35 72.5 40.3-13.0-18.2-14.9-  8.8
36 76.1 38.4-14.0-17.3-15.8-10.5
41 79.3 35.6-14.2-13.4-16.2-18.5
42 77.5 38.1-15.4-15.1-13.4-15.1 Left in third.
43 72.0 34.8-15.4-17.6-12.5-16.2
45 68.8 41.5-13.6-17.5-16.4-  7.2
46 73.1 43.1-12.1-14.7-16.7-  8.7
51 75.6 35.7-15.6-14.6-16.0-15.9
52 76.4 32.9-15.7-14.1-14.2-21.2
53 70.2 33.9-16.2-21.8-12.4-12.2
54 73.0 35.8-16.0-19.5-13.1-12.1
55 64.9 34.6-14.5-24.5-13.5-  8.5
56 64.4 35.4-14.1-24.8-14.1-  6.2 FDP in third.
57 70.4 33.9-15.3-23.6-12.8-10.7
61 61.8 35.1-14.5-26.6-11.5-  6.2
62 71.7 36.1-14.6-21.3-14.0-10.0
63 74.6 41.3-14.0-15.1-16.2-10.2
64 63.6 36.1-14.0-22.8-14.0-  7.1
71 58.1 31.9-15.1-29.9-10.9-  5.9
72 52.1 33.0-13.9-30.8-11.6-  4.3 I think it should be clear what part of Berlin Prohlis and Gorbitz are like.
73 69.9 37.5-14.9-18.7-16.5-  8.0
74 74.0 40.6-12.1-18.4-16.2-  7.8
75 70.4 36.1-15.5-21.4-13.6-  9.6
76 64.8 31.4-15.4-21.2-14.0-13.9
77 58.4 34.6-15.6-24.5-14.1-  5.2
81 71.4 30.9-16.9-22.4-13.1-13.6
82 71.9 29.4-17.9-20.9-14.5-14.4
83 70.1 34.4-16.4-23.2-11.6-10.4
84 70.8 36.1-15.6-20.8-13.2-  9.7
85 69.9 37.5-13.5-20.3-14.0-10.5
86 76.7 30.7-18.7-16.5-14.0-17.3
90 68.2 43.1-11.9-15.9-14.2-  9.8
91 59.0 33.6-12.7-22.3-15.9-  9.9
92 61.4 28.0-14.7-19.8-16.6-16.6 FDP in fourth
93 64.1 29.1-14.6-19.3-16.5-16.4
94 67.8 36.8-14.7-19.8-14.8-10.2
95 52.5 30.5-13.5-30.6-11.4-  6.2
96 53.1 28.2-13.7-30.2-13.1-  7.7
97 55.9 28.7-14.2-28.6-12.9-  7.5 This is actually a single vote lead that just rounds that way.
98 68.1 38.9-13.3-18.4-15.0-  9.2
99 75.6 43.5-12.7-16.8-16.6-  6.4

It's obvious which side of the river took the worse hit in 1945. Turnout spread quite as bad as in the West. The way the Greens do great in some (mostly inner) high turnout suburbs and badly in others seems utterly weird. Although maybe not to someone who knows these places. 

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« Reply #115 on: October 13, 2009, 08:19:03 AM »

Any more maps being worked on?
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« Reply #116 on: October 13, 2009, 08:55:31 AM »

Question answered. Cheesy
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« Reply #117 on: October 14, 2009, 12:39:53 PM »

Did this because I wondered if there were any patterns of interest.

CDU gains appear to be heavily concentrated near the northern part of the Upper Rhenanian Plain.

More seriously, Saxony-Anhalt is doing its old uniform swing state thing again. And there's some places going back that the SPD really has no business losing no matter the turnout (Recklinghausen!? Wilhelmshaven!?) And just areas that it won very narrowly this time.
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« Reply #118 on: October 14, 2009, 12:59:01 PM »

CDU gains appear to be heavily concentrated near the northern part of the Upper Rhenanian Plain.

Was slightly surprised that there were any - off the SPD, anyway. And both of those in the same state.

Might be related to the Left's bad Euros result. They've done very well in the western Pfalz in the 2005 and 2009 federals after all, but not in the state elections in between. I'd need to look up how well they did in the area in the Euros. If it was bad enough, it might be that some of the left voters there came back to the SPD for the euros, presumably on actually Europe-related issues.
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« Reply #119 on: October 16, 2009, 02:28:20 PM »

Because noone cares, I've classified Hessian municipalities.

Category A: Places won by the SPD. (All these places had the CDU in second. None had a majority for CDU and FDP - even ignoring minor parties.)
Category B: Places won by the CDU where the new government still doesn't have a majority.
Category C: Places won by the CDU, with a majority for the government and the SPD in second place.
Category D: Places won by the CDU with the FDP in second place. Some of these, the CDU has a majority of its own. There might be one or two places of that type in Category C, but if so, I overlooked the fact.
Oh, and a one-place
Category X: Tie between CDU and SPD. Majority for the new government as the FDP outpolls Greens and Left combined.

Cities:
A: Kassel
B: Frankfurt, Offenbach, Darmstadt
C: Wiesbaden

Kassel rural:
A: all but Naumburg
B: Naumburg

Waldeck-Frankenberg:
A: Diemelstadt, Edertal, Frankenau, Haina, Vöhl
C: everything else

Schwalm-Eder:
A: 21 municipalities
B: Gilserberg, Ottrau
C: Gudensberg, Neukirchen, Oberaula, Schwarzenborn

Werra-Meißner:
A: all but Bad Sooden-Allendorf, Berkatal
B: Bad Sooden-Allendorf, Berkatal

Hersfeld-Rotenburg:
A: 14 municipalities
B: Bad Hersfeld, Bebra, Rotenburg (the three largest in the district!), Friedewald
C: Kirchheim, Neuenstein

Fulda:
C: Bad Salzschlirf, Burghaun, Fulda, Petersberg, Tann, Gersfeld, Neuhof, Kalbach, Flieden
D: remainder

Vogelsberg:
A: Feldatal, Grebenau, Lautertal, Romrod, Wartenberg
B: Alsfeld, Homberg, Lauterbach, Mücke, Schlitz, Schwalmtal
C: Herbstein, Kirtorf, Schotten, Ulrichstein, Gemünden, Grebenstein
D: Antrifttal, Freiensteinau

Marburg-Biedenkopf:
A: Angelburg, Cölbe, Ebsdorfergrund, Lahntal, Marburg, Steffenberg, Wetter, Wohratal
B: Biedenkopf, Breidenbach, Dautphetal, Fronhausen, Kirchhain, Lohna, Müchhausen, Rauschenberg, Weimar
C: Bad Endbach, Gladenbach, Neustadt, Stadtallendorf
D: Amöneburg (you can really tell where the old Catholic enclaves in Marburg and the Vogelsberg are!)

Gießen:
A: Biebertal, Staufenberg, Wettenberg
B: Gießen itself, Fernwald, Heuchelheim, Linden, Lollar
C: 10 municipalities

Lahn-Dill:
A: Siegbach, Lahnau
B: Aßlar, Hohenahr, Mittenaar, Wetzlar itself
C: everything else

Limburg-Weilburg:
A: Löhnberg, Weinbach
B: Weilburg
C: 15 municipalities
D: Dornburg

Rheingau-Taunus:
C: All but Schlangenbad, Niedernhausen
D: Schlangenbad, Niedernhausen (in the Rhein-Main region, category D has nothing to do with catholicism and everything with being far too posh for my taste. Though there'll be an  excemption at the other end of the region.)

Hochtaunus:
C: Grävenwiesbach, Weilrod, Neu Anspach, Oberursel, Steinbach
D: Usingen, Wehrheim, Schmitten, Glashütten, Königstein, Kronberg, Bad Homburg, Friedrichsdorf

Main-Taunus:
C: Schwalbach, Sulzbach, Hattersheim, Flörsheim, Hochheim
D: everything else

Wetterau:
A: Florstadt, Glauburg, Hirzenhain, Limeshain, Ranstadt, Wölfersheim
B: Echzell, Nidda
C: 16 municipalities
D: Bad Nauheim (worth pointing out that Nidda is the largest place in categories A or B, but only the seventh in the district behind Vilbel, Nauheim, Friedberg, Butzbach, Karben and Büdingen, in order. In the Wetterau, the story is suburban new right versus rural traditional left.)

Main-Kinzig:
A: Brachttal
B: Erlensee
C: 24 municipalities (loads of close results. Still a phenomenally bad showing.)
D: Freigericht, Jossgrund (no, these are Catholic enclaves again. Well, Jossgrund anyways, not sure exactly about Freigericht. Anyways, not really the Rhein-Main area anymore)
X: Flörsbachtal

Offenbach rural:
B: Egelsbach
C: 8 municipalities
D: Heusenstamm, Obertshausen, Rödermark, Seligenstadt (that was the excemption I meant)

Darmstadt-Dieburg:
A: Reinheim, Ober-Ranstadt
B: Erzhausen, Weiterstadt, Griesheim, Pfungstadt, Bickenbach, Alsbach-Hähnlein, Modautal, Mühltal, Roßdorf, Groß-Umstadt
C: Seeheim-Jugenheim (exchange these last two, and the map is incredibly clearcut), Fischbachtal, Groß-Bieberau, Groß-Zimmern, Messel, Dieburg, Münster, Eppertshausen, Babenhausen, Schaafheim, Otzberg

Groß-Gerau:
A: Ginsheim-Gustavsburg, Bischofsheim, Raunheim, Büttelborn, Biebesheim, Stockstadt
B: Kelsterbach, Rüsselsheim, Mörfelden-Walldorf (I found that a little shocking. CDU ahead in Mörfelden_Walldorf? Okay, so Greens and Left together were as strong as the SPD but...), Groß-Gerau, Riedstadt
C: Nauheim, Trebur, Gernsheim

Bergstraße:
A: Groß Rohrheim
B: Lautertal
C: 20 municipalities

Odenwald:
A: Beerfelden, Breuberg, Hesseneck, Höchst, Rothenberg, Sensbachtal
B: Fränkisch Crumbach, Lützelbach, Michelstadt
C: Bad König, Brensbach, Bromsbachtal, Erbach, Mossautal, Reichelsheim
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« Reply #120 on: October 16, 2009, 03:26:54 PM »

Interesting. Is there a map of all the municipalities? If there isn't I could draw one myself, but it would take a while.
There probably is, but don't bother. I kept the no. of categories simple so people can (if they want to) picture the maps themselves. I'd rather you do more cities. I suggest Essen next. Cheesy
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« Reply #121 on: October 17, 2009, 09:28:21 AM »

What are those two wards/districts the Linke won like?

The area is called Gorbitz and this is a photo from 1987:

Prohlis (the two areas further west where the Left was also quite strong though the CDU narrowly won) is much the same.

Btw, what's with the (relative) concentration of SPD support in the centre of Dresden?
No idea. Wossies? (West German transplants, that is.)
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« Reply #122 on: October 17, 2009, 11:10:33 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2009, 11:12:06 AM by s.v. Hunds e.t.c. »

Pretty strong polarization, isn't it. When I saw election results come in, I thought the CDU would probably pick up Essen South. Dortmund too has a bourgeois south side, though it's not nearly as pronounced IIRC.

EDIT: Wait - the SPD still polled majorities in some locales? Wow.
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« Reply #123 on: October 20, 2009, 10:01:41 AM »

Sweet.
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« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2009, 02:05:11 PM »

Don't we sort of have a map of Nuremberg already? Do Dortmund and Wiesbaden and Leipzig!
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