20th Century History Makers Survivor- organization & results- GANDHI Winner !

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ROUND 8

This damned immunity won't please everyone....

Hindenburg is now immune, after having been narrowly beaten by Hiro Hito... historically weird !
Chamberlain is immune after having tied with Andreotti (who "won" due to his far higher veteranship in getting votes...).

Argh. And I voted for Andreotti because he would have been immune the next round (correctly) while Chamberlain wouldn't (incorrectly, as it turned out). Oh well. Time to vote for Honecker...

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At one point, when the lists are shorter, there ought to be a round that ends when all but one person have received a vote, with that person eliminated.

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Great.

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Now, what would really be funny is if we'd get a big nuclear showdown in one group, say three more people giving Guevara four votes and four people giving Honecker four votes, with hardly any votes cast everywhere else. (Or alternatively, a battle to save Wojtila... although I doubt there are other people who'd cast four votes for his elimination.)

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I thought of two more potentially fun rules!

One where you can't vote for the person voted for in the post above yours.
And one where we vote to reintroduce Che Guevara John Paul II[/i] one eliminated person per group.

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Oh, but that Shevardnadze photo is cruel. Dread to think how you found that.

Oh, that's easy. He flew to Georgia, abducted the old man, roughed him up a bit, took a picture and uploaded it to imagehost.

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I missed the bring back round.

But I love two of its six results anyways, and don't mind one jot about three others!

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Boo@ Keynes elimination.

Who wasn't one of the idiot math-diagram-minded class of economists anyways.

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Some historical figures may be not perfect but were REALLY big ones.

Like Joe Stalin?

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I wasn't aware that Korean politics (North or South) could be used as an advertisement for politics, but there you go.

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No, don't say that, there are still many "middle" ones in this group.
For example, I voted Kofi Annan, because he is dull an dhe should have gone before.

Oh well, that's a game...

Personally, I find votes against Patrice Lumumba offensive.

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King after Trudeau is certainly hard to justify pretty much from whichever angle you look at it.

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And, eventually, the big 3-way tie in group IV, with Nehru, Weizmann and Adenauer with 3 votes.
And... a new tie after applying my tie-breaking rule !
So, I am obliged to decide...
And my criteria of personal influence leads me to eliminate.... Adenauer
Yes, I reluctantly think that, without Adenauer, West Germany would have followed quite a similar path, whereas India without a Nehru, full of weaknesses, may well have seen a more troubled state-childhood.

I would disagree... except that it's Nehru we're comparing with. And that's one of the rather few people compared to whom even Adenauer was "irrelevant" in the rule's sense.

As to Makhno, keeping him alive was fun while it lasted, but I've been wholly satisfied with my success at that for four or five rounds now.

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Other two were much easier choices.

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Comparatively near-total irrelevance?

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No, because people like that (and also Monnet, Einstein, Palach, Jan Masaryk, Hammarskjöld, Zapata, and yea, Orwell) in the last stage would be a definite case of Forum Fail. It is high time we get the non history makers off now.

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No, because people like that (and also Monnet, Einstein, Palach, Jan Masaryk, Hammarskjöld, Zapata, and yea, Orwell) in the last stage would be a definite case of Forum Fail. It is high time we get the non history makers off now.

Basically, yeah. I mean, I won't vote Orwell off because I'm such a cliché, but won't object if others do now.

Same with me and Zapata.

Well, at least not as long as any of the others is on. And a few more people I haven't even mentioned there. But there will be a point where I'll vote against Zapata.

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Hmm... at current Walesa is out, but a single vote against Gorbachev, Jaurès or Einstein would save him. Fascinating.

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PiT and Nhoj are at last rewarded for their regular vote for FDR. And my comment on the preceding round was completely mistaken on a stealth majority to protect him.

It's more that a "stealth majority" doesn't really work under this rule.

I forgot to vote, that's what happened

Seems you would have had a choice only of FDR versus Cardenas, so...

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What was fine in this round is that EVERYBODY has received at least a half-vote, EXCEPT Willy Brandt... whi is now the only one "virgin" history maker !

His several former wives will be surprised to hear that.

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It was a tactical vote - Mandela wasn't my first choice to go out at that stage, but I preferred him to Dubcek.