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leecannon
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« on: May 03, 2024, 08:22:56 PM »

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leecannon
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2024, 11:07:10 PM »

Lia's high performance is an outlier among the transfem athletes we've seen iirc. And even then it wasn't enough to warrant banning her from competing. A study by the Olympics people found that the narrative that trans women are inherently stronger overall is deeply flawed.
 https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/olympic-trans-women-ioc-study-rcna148437

It’s pretty telling that the three usual suspects (Pres Mike, VBM, Horus) have completely ignored this.

The transphobes know deep down that they don’t have any facts to back to their arguments, and that their entire perspective is no more sophisticated than that of a toddler looking at asparagus and going “yucky, I don’t like it!”.

Well considering one of the first responses was “disgusting” that tells you that right there
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leecannon
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2024, 10:26:25 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2024, 02:56:56 PM by Born to Slay. Forced to Work. »

If biological sex != gender:

Where is the dissonance in asking a trans woman to compete against men? 


Some activists would rather hurt the ability of hundreds of cis athletes to compete to make one trans athlete feel better

You realize this nonsense hurts ciswomen (and girls) ...

just as much, if not more ...

as trans women.

You have one, maybe two examples of trans women being able to compete, but because of people like you fanning hysteria there are dozens and dozens of ciswomen being harassed because they don't conform neatly to gender stereotypes. And don't fane "oh well that's wrong of people'', because this is the end of your argument. Grown adults screaming to look at the genitals of a nine year old because their hair is too short.

I can keep going btw

and it's not just a sports thing

Transpanic also perpetuates racist ideas about gender too.
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leecannon
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2024, 03:36:20 PM »

Okay then, ban Lia Thomas because she's 6 ft tall, that's fair enough. Just apply it consistently.





Yea there’s not way to ban trans athletes that doesn’t also impact cis athletes, besides explicit discrimination. Which gives away that it’s all a farce
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leecannon
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2024, 04:06:56 PM »

This is a losing issue for Democrats, especially if they want to be the party of suburban wine moms, a lot of whom have daughters who are athletes and/or are former athletes themselves. When they see these stories of biological men dominating women's sports, they are not happy. And god forbid if their daughter looses out on a scholarship because a biological male beat her in a competition.

Democrats are stupid if they think this is an issue worth dying over

She's suing in a court in Switzerland.  And just to be clear, we're talking about amateur sports here.  This has nothing to do with US politics, nor should it.
The NCAA National Championship isn't amateur, its the highest honor for a college athelete.

You don’t know what amateur means. NCAA is amateur but still highly competitive
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