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« on: September 03, 2021, 05:36:06 PM »

lol... Newsom may end up beating his 2018 margin at this rate

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2021, 06:55:59 PM »

Do Republicans see this as a blown opportunity?

I'm not a Republican so can't speak personally to it, but my take is that the emergence of Elder as the leading R in the race has turned it from one that was a long shot for R's into one where they have no shot whatsoever.  So in that sense it's a blown opportunity, but it was a pretty unlikely opportunity for them even with a good candidate.

Newsom and the dems would have done to Faulkner, or Cox what they did to Elder if either of those two were the front runner. just try to label them as some right wind guy and frame the recall as democrat vs Republican.
Do you really think anything would’ve been different? Elder was just the Ginnypig

Just because they would use the same strategy doesn't mean it would be equally effective. Faulconer was actually a pretty reasonable, moderate mayor. Elder is a grifter lunatic.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2021, 10:56:11 AM »

Further to the discussion on maps, it looks like NOTA is on track to win more counties than Elder.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2021, 12:05:52 AM »

"California Recall Comes Down to the Wire" - ABC News.

There's a reason we call them the Enemy of the People...
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2021, 08:51:13 PM »

Do Republicans believe that any election they lose is by definition fraudulent?

They don't believe that Democrats are full citizens, so yes, by definition.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2021, 09:37:29 PM »

Newsom will be making a statement right when the polls close.



Let's hope he takes a well-deserved victory lap.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2021, 10:03:16 PM »

CNN: Too early to call, but No has a lead.

Say it with me folks: Enemies of the People.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2021, 10:14:27 PM »

NO AT 76% IN LOS ANGELES

CALL IT YOU COWARDS
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2021, 10:25:11 PM »

NO AT 76% IN LOS ANGELES

CALL IT YOU COWARDS

Relax.  Why does it matter when the media calls it, anyway?  Them calling it or not calling it doesn't mean we don't know where it's headed.  The media projections really don't mean much, at the end of the day.

I understand the sentiment, though.

Because the press should tell the truth. And the truth is that Newsom has won. By pretending that this race cannot be called yet, they are lying to us.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2021, 10:26:01 PM »

Paffrath is leading in San Francisco with 18%. lol

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2021, 10:39:03 PM »

So far there is a huge undervote on question 2. There are 7.8 million votes for question 1 counted so far, but only 4 million for question 2.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2021, 11:19:10 PM »

Current results on Question 2 when including blank votes:

BLANK 47%
Elder 23%
Paffrath 6%
Faulconer 5%
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2021, 11:35:20 PM »

Most of you will disagree with this post, but just a reminder that there are a lot of moderate and reasonable independents and republicans who live here and are very concerned about the big issues facing this state: the absurd housing prices, the cost of living, gas prices, one party dominance in the statehouse that produces bad laws such as ones that ban independent contracting, etc. A census report came out today that California has the highest cost-of-living adjusted poverty rate of any state, behind only DC.

Nothing seems to get fixed or addressed to these citizens. They are frustrated that there is zero feasible 2nd party opposition that can at least bring some balance to Sacramento.

You don't have to be some trumpist idiot to have some worry about the issues in the state.

Just some perspective for the out-of-staters on here treating this like a team sport.

I personally know many people under 30 who grew up here and adore the state who unfortunately are essentially being forced out to other states because of the rent and their financial inability to afford any homes to start their american dream.

It's a sad situation that goes beyond any one party, but to at least some people thought the recall presented a chance to throw a wrench in the system.

I agree that cost of living is a serious problem in California! It's why I've spent most of my adult life elsewhere; the only reason I'm here now is because I'm living rent-free with my parents.

The next time I see a substantive proposal by Republicans to do something about this will be the first.

I don't have a policy paper to give you, lol.

but my solution involves abolishing zoning laws (or at least severely limiting them), and reducing the stigma of things like trailer parks and mini homes.

The problem is that the actually existing Republican Party in CA opposes these things. Many liberals do too of course, which is why California is in the situation it's in. But the only movement for weakening zoning laws and expanding the housing supply is coming from Democrats.
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