CBS/NYT: Clinton 48 Sanders 41

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Democrats truly are specialists in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, it seems. TRUMP will be absolutely thrilled!

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Maybe Sanders does better than Obama with Hispanics. Maybe. But we're already reaching a ceiling there. He will obviously do much worse with blacks, and Trump is just the kind of Republican that could really make inroads with them (maybe winning up to 15%, which makes a difference in swing states). And then Sanders will get clobbered with moderates and suburbanites. You think ordinary middle class swing voters in Northern Virginia or the Philly burbs are gonna vote for a 75-year-old socialist?? Trump is going to go hard to the middle once he's won the primaries, he'll de-emphasize the crazy stuff and triangulate, and he'll win the general.

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Not everyone who disagrees with your sage wisdom is trolling. I'm right about this and I'll be proven right if Democrats are stupid enough to nominate Sanders.

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Guys you do realize that if Clinton can't even beat Bernie Sanders, she had no business going up against whoever the Republican is anyway.

Well yeah. If she isn't good enough to win the primary she wouldn't have been able to win the general anyway, IMO.

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Guys you do realize that if Clinton can't even beat Bernie Sanders, she had no business going up against whoever the Republican is anyway.

Well yeah. If she isn't good enough to win the primary she wouldn't have been able to win the general anyway, IMO.

Maybe you guys should start pushing for a Biden entry.

We're getting ahead of ourselves though. This surge could recede next week for all we know.

Indeed. People just need to remain calm. Polling oddities will happen.

Even Chealsea Clinton is attacking Sanders now (lying of course). Its obvious that the Clinton campaign believes these polls they are in panic mode.

How is she lying? Sanders wants to get rid of Obamacare. That's a fact.

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No, he doesn't not want to "expand" Obamacare. He wants to repeal Obamacare (among other things like Medicaid, SCHIP, etc.) and replace it with a new law. Getting rid of something and replacing it with a new thing is not "expanding" that thing.

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It's not misleading. Sanders doesn't like Obamacare and wants to repeal and replace it. Clinton likes Obamacare and wants to protect it, improve it, and expand it. Those are clear differences that people like you are trying to obfuscate.

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The difference, of course, is that TRUMP admits he wants to repeal Obamacare. Sanders' supporters, on the other hand, act deeply offended and outraged when it is correctly pointed out that Bernie wants to do the same.

The fact is that the Democratic spent a lot of time, energy, political capital, money and public trust on Obamacare. It's a major part of our President's legacy. We essentially traded our House majority for it. Bernie Sanders wants to, essentially, start all over again from scratch. He wants to go to the American people, and essentially tell them "Sorry about that Obamacare thing that we spent seven years defending, but it actually sucks and now we're going to do a whole new thing that is going to be many times more disruptive, many times more expensive, and this time literally zero of you are going to be able to keep your insurance, even if you like it!"

That's a tough sell. It will cost considerable political capital. It will strain what little trust the American people have left in the competency of the Democratic Party, in the competency of government, in the very idea of an activist government, to be told "oops, we messed up on healthcare reform, time to repeal it and start all over trying a totally new thing!" Sanders should be honest about this.

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Let's imagine Trump wants to expand the death penalty to petty theft and verbal insult. He would have to pass a legal act of some kind to implement it (I'm not familiar enough with your legal system to know of which nature, but that's besides the point) with the new regime replacing the old one.

Saying Sanders wants to repeal Obamacare is like saying, in the above case : Trump wants to abolish the death penalty !!!1!!1!

Sure, if you're terrible at analogies.