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Question: Will "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" end up "rotten" (under 60%) on Rotten Tomatoes?
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« on: December 06, 2012, 07:00:42 PM »

Jackson isn't adding his "fan fiction"; he's incorporating other stories Tolkien wrote that take place around the same time canonically as The Hobbit.

There was already a fair amount of "fan fiction" in the Lord of the Rings trilogy anyway, like that elf army that showed up at Helm's Deep for some reason or when Faramir brought Frodo, Sam and the ring back with him to Gondor. It hardly ruined the films.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 05:09:43 PM »

So as someone who doesn't particularly care about these books or films, what was so messed up about The Two Towers in particular (according to the purists here)?

Most but not all of it can be traced back to either (a) a sequence of events in which, among other things, Aragorn falls off a cliff on a warg, (b) elves at the Hornburg, or both.

There is, obviously, more.

Right but only people who (1) are deeply attached to the books and (2) fault a movie for not following its source material strictly would care about that. (Also the whole Faramir digression is considerably worse than either of those things combined, since Jackson needlessly ruined a character there, while the worgs and the elves were mostly just cool exciting things he added).
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2012, 04:39:46 PM »

I thought it was a fun and exciting fantasy adventure, with generally very nice visuals (though some of the battle scenes, specifically the escape from the goblins, were kind of muddling and video game-ish; on the other hand, the final battle with the burning trees was very well-done). And the score was great. Hearing the themes from the first films again was this hugely nostalgically satisfying. I didn't think it was overly long either, I would have gladly spent another few hours in the world Jackson has obviously very lovingly created. I loved the little historical scenes too, like seeing where Thorin got his epithet from and the dragon attack in the beginning.

I don't really care that's it not an exact recreation of The Hobbit either. The book already exists; if you want a faithful recreation of Tolkien just re-read the book. Let other artists make their own works. It's especially ridiculous to criticize Jackson considering that taking other works and ideas and worlds and repurposing them for your ends is basically what Tolkien did in the first place.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 11:20:32 PM »

I thought it was a fun and exciting fantasy adventure, with generally very nice visuals (though some of the battle scenes, specifically the escape from the goblins, were kind of muddling and video game-ish; on the other hand, the final battle with the burning trees was very well-done). And the score was great. Hearing the themes from the first films again was this hugely nostalgically satisfying. I didn't think it was overly long either, I would have gladly spent another few hours in the world Jackson has obviously very lovingly created. I loved the little historical scenes too, like seeing where Thorin got his epithet from and the dragon attack in the beginning.

I don't really care that's it not an exact recreation of The Hobbit either. The book already exists; if you want a faithful recreation of Tolkien just re-read the book. Let other artists make their own works. It's especially ridiculous to criticize Jackson considering that taking other works and ideas and worlds and repurposing them for your ends is basically what Tolkien did in the first place.

Have you seen the 3D IMAX version of it?  It's a whole new experience.... 

Nah, aren't tickets like $20 each for that? I can see why it would be pretty cool though.
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